Real Madrid (A) Post Match Thread

Bigga said:
I can't get this ever circular argument with you.

You can't see Guardiola has stopped overthinking. Stopped over-tinkering. We're not talking about deep history as he's grown since then, so none of that is relevant except for a learning curve.

Guardiola has stated maybe he's not good enough to lead us forward, so you might get your wish after all?

However, Guardiola fights YOU as well as the media, it seems...



Maybe YOU should slap yourself awake. Hard.
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Gotta love Guardiola. Great points.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Just to add to this, we have a management team that should be able to improve players. We don’t have to have the finished article. The lad at soton who plays fullback for them with the French name is raw but affordable and would improve immeasurably under pep
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Jared Bowen...im thinking that type of buy from Hull..inspired...he genuinely is very talented and gives it more than is all. I think as we have pep..who improves players..we should take advantage..get a good domestic scouting team up and running. We have thousands of well 'schooled' lads in this country now as most players across all leagues have been at acadamies for years..so technically should have the fundamentals...players develop at different stages. Just need to find those that are on the upward curve again..
 
BigOscar said:
Gutting, ballsed it up right at the end when the tie should have been dead and buried way earlier than that. Pep for once didn't over think it and only made one mistake, bringing on Grealish, but the players let him down at the last. Has to be said though, the CL is a despicable competition rigged even worse than the Pl, that referee was beyond bent in everything he did.

Particularly gutted for Walker and Bernardo who really didn't deserve that.
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Geealish half inch away from the keepers studs...goal = hero..2:0 were through..inspired sub! Just saying...an extra half inch ...apparently makes all the difference!!!
 
Keeper! said:
The tie overall should have been put to bed in the first 45 minutes at the Etihad, Real were on the ropes and getting ripped to shreds, yet after 90 minutes we had a one goal lead, that's why this tie was lost.
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Yeah agreed, that first leg no matter how brilliant a game it was cost us. Haaland or some other top striker has to arrive this summer
 
East Level 2 said:
Would Casemiro have been stupid enough to commit either his second or third yellow card offence if he'd been booked for the first one? If the answer is "no" then we'd have been up against a slightly hesitant defender, but still a top class defender. Would we have been able to gain a significant advantage?
As for the question of motivation: We have a team of top class players and all of them needed a degree of self-motivation to get to the top of their games. Whatever Pep did or didn't say, they should have been sufficiently motivated in the final few minutes to see out the game. They shouldn't have needed an "on-pitch leader" to keep their heads together, not taking chances and not giving the ball away cheaply should have been obvious to each and every one of them.
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He should have been sent off for the first offence on KDB, it wasn’t just a yellow card.
 
Bigga said:
I can't get this ever circular argument with you.

You can't see Guardiola has stopped overthinking. Stopped over-tinkering. We're not talking about deep history as he's grown since then, so none of that is relevant except for a learning curve.

Guardiola has stated maybe he's not good enough to lead us forward, so you might get your wish after all?

However, Guardiola fights YOU as well as the media, it seems...



Maybe YOU should slap yourself awake. Hard.
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My wish is that he starts to motivate the players differently in this competition.

My opinion is and always was that he struggles with that in this tournament based on past games performance/results and at different clubs.

We weren’t eliminated because they didn’t play into a corner.
 
if we had done what we did at the Wanda Metropolitano, we would be in the final right now. We were naïve and that's all there is to it. We could keep analyzing this game for the next 10 years but if we had held on to the ball, forced fouls and wasted some more time then we would be in the finals right now, its a missed opportunity and I hope we learn from that experience. There's a time to entertain the crowd and there's a time to end the show.
 
Bigga said:
I can't get this ever circular argument with you.

You can't see Guardiola has stopped overthinking. Stopped over-tinkering. We're not talking about deep history as he's grown since then, so none of that is relevant except for a learning curve.

Guardiola has stated maybe he's not good enough to lead us forward, so you might get your wish after all?

However, Guardiola fights YOU as well as the media, it seems...



Maybe YOU should slap yourself awake. Hard.
Click to expand...


I'm as guilty as anyone else of the old kneejerk reaction but some of the shite posted on here my 6 year old would be ashamed to write. We'll only realize what we had when its gone.
 
Keeper! said:
Mate, Wednesdays night defeat was not on Pep, last years final, Lyon the year before, you may have an argument.

Real's win was down to wasteful finishing in both games, poor individual defending and complacency, and lack of good fortune nothing more.

Cup competitions are not always won by the best teams, hence why I never got the love in for the English obsession with the FA Cup. Before the start of the Premier league, the winners of the FA Cup received more glory and accolades than the winners of the title, totally crazy!

Luck plays a huge part in winning cups, over the two Real Madrid ties we were stone cold out of luck.
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Fair comment, but I think we started with a half fit De Bruyne on Wednesday purely in the hope of catching them cold. KDB and Foden made little or no impact after the first ten minutes, and with Mahrez anchored to the touchline as usual, we may as well have been playing with 10 men.

I think we should have taken a more patient approach by playing Gundogan and using KDB later in the game.

As you say, we were bang out of luck in the first game and should have been home and dry before the second leg. That said, you make your own luck, but playing a half fit KDB isn't going to help.

All in the past now though. I just want to win the PL!
 
Lavinda Past said:
Fair comment, but I think we started with a half fit De Bruyne on Wednesday purely in the hope of catching them cold. KDB and Foden made little or no impact after the first ten minutes, and with Mahrez anchored to the touchline as usual, we may as well have been playing with 10 men.

I think we should have taken a more patient approach by playing Gundogan and using KDB later in the game.

As you say, we were bang out of luck in the first game and should have been home and dry before the second leg. That said, you make your own luck, but playing a half fit KDB isn't going to help.

All in the past now though. I just want to win the PL!
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Half fit KDB , Gundo ,Walker and a good few of the others but what was the alternatives?

We have a relatively small squad for the amount of games we play, and NO manager is going to throw young , inexperienced players into a game of that magnitude.
 
theres only one carlito said:
My wish is that he starts to motivate the players differently in this competition.

My opinion is and always was that he struggles with that in this tournament based on past games performance/results and at different clubs.

We weren’t eliminated because they didn’t play into a corner.
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No, you're right, we're not eliminated cos we didn't play into a corner.

We're eliminated cos Real Madrid had a player on the pitch that shouldn't have been.

We're eliminated through Rodrigo miraculously heading a deflected ball into the top corner, he couldn't do in 500 attempts again, if he tried.

We're eliminated through the scraping a ball off the line from Grealish and we're eliminated by the minutest of touches off the studs of Courtois. But, also by an error in judgement for an unnecessary challenge from Dias.

Cheating and margins.

Nothing to do with motivation.
 
Keeper! said:
Half fit KDB , Gundo ,Walker and a good few of the others but what was the alternatives?

We have a relatively small squad for the amount of games we play, and NO manager is going to throw young , inexperienced players into a game of that magnitude.
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That's a problem we've had for too long, but as it was Pep who said he was happy with the squad earlier in the season, I think the buck stops firmly on his desk.
 
Lavinda Past said:
That's a problem we've had for too long, but as it was Pep who said he was happy with the squad earlier in the season, I think the buck stops firmly on his desk.
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Wow, Lavinda, I’m far from a ‘happy clapper’ but you are going for it these last few days!
 
Lavinda Past said:
That's a problem we've had for too long, but as it was Pep who said he was happy with the squad earlier in the season, I think the buck stops firmly on his desk.
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I think the bonhomie of our decision makers, whilst with its positives, has seen us succeed, but has also left us disjointed and bereft squad wise in certain obvious areas, when we should have been kicking on.
I'm sure it will come good, but we should have been making hay now.
 
despite the two days of "time to reflect", many posters are relying on "hindsight", imo. Obviously the players are in real-time, that is why experience is so important, the certainty that the wheels can fall off at any time, and how to prevent it. Well, i fkin 'ope so.
A happy clapper sees benefits in every situation, such as at least we don't have to mingle with the barbarians from down the east lancs, but for most, that is not enough...by about 40 miles
 
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