philiph20 said:
More tickets have been sold for the Real game than Ajax next week it seems. I think we will do very well to get 40000 for the Ajax game which is a shame and it would appear that our attendances for the 3 games this season after winning the league will be less than last season. I accept that times are hard but i can't get my head around the fact that less blues will watch us this season than last, apart from ticket prices the club surely have to research and get their heads together to find out why we have not really attracted new or got fans who used to go attending from the Manchester area. I did notice at the Dortmund and indeed the 3 games last season that there were quite a few of the so called 'daytrippers', i would be of the opinion that a large proportion of these could possibly be students rather than people flying in from Ireland, Scandinavia,UAE etc. How can we attract those Blues for example who haven't been for years back into the fold?, i would have thought that after last season heroics many would be desperate to return but i am obviously wrong.
There seems to be a dearth of late teens /early 20s at the Etihad and the pricing for this particular age group doesn't help. I heard David Conn on the radio talk about crowds getting older and i think he is spot on, there must be many thousands of 16-21 year olds in the Manchester area who just watch games on Sky and the club needs to do their upmost to get them to watch the club.
When I look around the Etihad, or our away section away from home, and compare it to the travelling fans who come to the Etihad,, I would say we must have the fewest amount of young men following our club than any other big club.
We haven't got a particularly big fanbase full stop. Yes, compared to West Brom and Fulham - who we were rubbing shoulders with not so long ago - we do, but compared to the top European sides and probably the top London clubs too, we don't (12million people live in and around London, and a number of clubs average well over 55000 around Europe).
Manchester isn't London, there isn't an abundance of people on a great deal of money. Manchester isn't a particularly big city and there are more fans of United here than we give credit for. Manchester is a working class city on the whole and people simply can't afford tickets for lots of games.
I can totally see why sales may be down.
I can afford it, I have a fairly good number of money points but I still don't think its right that prices keep getting higher and higher. The 16-21 pricing is a joke! How is a lad with three pot collecting shifts a week going to be able to afford it? Plus taking his bird out a couple of times, plus other City games? There's only so many of us to go round, we don't have a particularly big fanbase, as I've said, and we shouldn't be pricing the fans that do exist out.
In ten years time when we have truly won round more fans then maybe start increasing prices in certain areas (corporate!! and second tier) but not now, so early on when we've still got the same core of about 25000 hardcore fans and about 55000 match attending fans over the season, and not in all areas at all age groups.
There should be no "this is the price of success" or "you aren't being forced to go, so don't go if you can't afford it" arguments. We should all be looking out for each other. The club make very little money from ticket sales. £10 increase per ticket for the club or to a well off man or a single 30 year old (I'm the latter, I have no real responsibilities to worry about or anyone else who depends on me) is fuck all, but for the young pot collector or Dad with a family of four or five who doesn't earn a great deal but all want to want to go games, its huge.
We should be looking after the fans who want to go now, first; not trying to take in minimal amounts more from fans who aren't arsed who may have a bit more money.
The day Arsenal announced seasoncards over £1000 we should all have been up in arms about it across the country because long term it affects us all. If it happened in Germany the whole football community would be together as one. But here we've got a lot of people with the first name Jack and Jack's alright!