Ref for the derby

[Dribble]

Atkinson & his assistants were fucking shocking. At times it felt like we were the away team.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The club will rollover and accept whatever punishment comes our way for not controlling our players. Until the referees and their bosses become accountable and that accountability is transparent then fuck all will be done about it

We will never see the like of natural justice at work in any aspect of football governance. The most appalling examples of refereeing are never brought to account. The culprits are back the week after, but surprisingly in the next game we find they are awarding blatant pens and issuing red cards when appropriate! It is maddening, week in and week out, to see them turn up at The Etihad and ref according to another hymn sheet. It seems to me that the better football we deliver, the worse the refs are at sticking to what's written down within the Laws. Atkinson was rewriting them yesterday.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Seriously guys no one is saying that Atkinson made us miss any of the sitters but had he reffed according to the rules of the game we would have had a penalty, which had we scored would have given us a draw and who knows given the impetus to go on and get a winner.
He failed to give us numerous fouls whilst giving the rags everything. He also managed to get in the way of our attacking play on a number of occasions as have many refs this season.
Hard to see how anyone can be happy with the refs performance today, even many non City fans are saying he was very poor, with match of the day guys saying it was a nailed on pen.
Is it to much to expect a ref to be neutral and apply the rules exactly the same to both teams. This has not been happening for the last 2 or 3 seasons. I wonder why. It is easy to understand why many blues think refs are bent.[/QUOTE

There would appear to be an approach to the refereeing decisions which suggest a degree of bias against
City and some may suggest paranoia.

The truth is however that the PIGMOL referees do not favour City, whilst the fuckers favourites ie the rags and dippers at every opportunity.

And am I paranoid .? Am I fuck !!!

 

[Shirley]

I'm sure there are moves going on behind the scenes for another charge of failing to control players and this time with a points deduction.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I'm sure there are moves going on behind the scenes for another charge of failing to control players and this time with a points deduction.

I wouldn't be surprised, and what would surprise me even less is that the FArce deliberated on that today and gave us five minutes to answer the charge with the five minutes coming after the sentence is passed! Ever since the Good Sheikh took over the club we have been sanctioned left, right, and centre. On the pitch and off the pitch. When do we get the benefit of the doubt? When do we put in tackles like Ash the Crash did yesterday and no sanction from the ref? When do we have the ball rolling over our outstretched arm and a pen isn't given. Jeez, Sterling had one given when the ball hit his back, and FatPhil penalised Micah at Anfield when the ball hit his thigh!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I'm sure there are moves going on behind the scenes for another charge of failing to control players and this time with a points deduction.

The FArce will have been inundated with emails and texts asking them what they are gonna do about it, the minute the game ended!

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Do people still really believe that officials are just incompetent?

That performance today was bent as a nine bob note from beginning to end and no one with more than half a brain cell can dispute that. Neither Sky nor the PL wanted the competition to end today and they got their wish.

You will be told by some on this forum that you are just paranoid . Time to take the fucking blinkers off and face up to facts that the FA and PIGMOL have an agenda which looks to preserve the status quo for the rags and dippers .

The referees are are a fucking disgrace unless you play in red. And you sympathisers and supporters of the FA / PIGMOL conspiracy can fuck off as far as I am concerned.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Not lol though is it, you think Atkinson made sterling miss 2 absolute sitters?

'Twas Atkinson who allowed Ash the Crash to barge Sterling into the ground without sanction, and then moments later found it perfectly within the Laws of the Game to penalise Sterling when he sashayed through three MANUre players and made minimal contact with them.

From what I have seen this season we can ride the misses, no matter how glaring. We cannot overcome referees who simply do not do their job. There's barely a game where we haven't missed some that could be wafted in with a programme, but if refs don't give the most obvious fouls from crashing, illegal tackles, and then award a string of free kicks for minimal contact, there will come a time when we pay a heavy price in terms of results and points haul.

 

[ste.sully]

Probably only Atkinson and Michael Oliver who are capable of delivering consistent performances. The rest are rubbish.

^^^ I was kind. I gave him a chance. But he screwed up big time.

Personally I've long suspected for a number of years that match fixing is quite common in England. It's easy to forget this happened in Bundesliga and Serie A in the last 10 years. The sports journalists in this country are just scared of doing research when if they actually delved below the surface they would find something.

Lots of reasons:
- Betting is now so common. There are so many avenues that did not exist 20 years.
- Money is so intrinsically linked across the European Union. You could place a bet abroad and the chances of it being tracked are greatly reduced.
- Easy to forget referees don't actually get paid a lot of money at £100k a year in comparison to money the players earn and the betting involved. Keith Hackett talked about this a few months ago and that because no progression is being offered, referees often get to the top and become lazy. Bobby Madley is a perfect example, decent referee when he was promoted. This season he has been shambolic and looks overweight.
- Webb and Clattenburg left because of the salary.

Two particular refereeing incidents have disturbed me this season that have not in previous seasons. The yellow for Delph against Wigan then changing his mind and making it a red was just plain weird and uncomfortable with how it happened. It was a bit like "if I make this look like I've actually at least thought about it and the Wigan players are furious then no one will notice" rather than giving a straight red. They did have ridiculously long odds against us at 20/1 (extremely rare in football) it was the perfect game.

I didn't mind the Young handball as he slipped - even though it should have been a penalty. But the Young on Aguero lunge was just inexcusable. It was so obvious. To miss that as a referee at this level you either have to possess poor eyesight or be expecting an envelope in the post. It was uncomfortable to see an "experienced" referee make such a clear error. It makes you ask questions. Even Gary Neville was shocked.

I say this because if I was a referee and I fell on hard times, it would be very tempting. Think about it - 100k is not a lot of money when you see the billions that the Premier League now generates and the proliferation of betting channels. It's a soft area that is open to exploitation. I think it's time the media had a discussion about and why the standard of refereeing this season has been so poor.

As I say, sports journalists appear terrified of any investigation in match fixing in sport for fear of retaliation.

 

[hutton who blue]

Very early in the game a long ball was fed to Sterling. He was cornered in defensively but skillfully wriggled through attempted fouls and when he acclomplished this the linesman/referees assistant/rag **** raised his flag for a foul the rag ****s had failed to commit. There and then I knew this was not going to be a fair game.