Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[jrb]

Obviously not a City game, but a result that could have a huge impact on the title race.

 

[Gordyola]

Can't fault the ref for the 8 minutes. He added time on because of the rag time wasting.
He should have booked Onana for time wasting but overall no complaints.

Agreed Although I do wonder how he got it so badly wrong against Chelsea having booked the GK and more subs he only allowed 4 mins Maybe it was City drawing v City winning

 

[BringBackSwales]

Tierney not allowed to ref this coming weekend cos he favoured one of our title challengers; he is allowed on var for our other challenger instead. Thats all ok then

 

[BringBackSwales]

Do we know who our officials are for Sunday yet?

 

[Damanino]

Do we know who our officials are for Sunday yet?

Olivar with Atwell on VAR.

Atwell gave the offside goal for Fernandes/Rashford last season in the derby.

said in other topic, Oliver will give one of those pens to dippers where VAR cannot overturn if given or overturn if not given by on field ref which is the ultimate fucking joke wild card for a ref under VAR regime.

 

[Chris in London]

I wonder what odds you'd get from a bookie for a red card for a dipper or a penalty to us?

 

[SebastianBlue]

Obviously not a City game, but a result that could have a huge impact on the title race.

Same old, same old.

No real consequences for mistakes. Just stand them down until the heat dissipates and then put them back to refereeing until they make another high profile “mistake”.

Some of the shambolic state of officiating is unfortunately due to there simply not being enough top flight credentialed referees to allow for all of those consistently making mistakes to be sent back to the lower leagues.

But you also have to ask yourself why referees are rarely actually sent back down at all.

And why the consequences for repeated poor performance is usually being given VAR duty for a few weeks.

It becomes merely a rotation and, even if there is nothing actually untoward about it, the current setup does nothing to instil confidence with fans who are accustomed to facing material consequences in their lives when they continual make mistakes (at work or otherwise). And who are used to seeing the manager, executives, and players at their club also experience them (whilst also having to speak to and defend practically every action they undertake and every decision they make, right or wrong), whilst referees are largely insulated from such accountability.

If you wanted to design a system that would have its integrity and legitimacy consistently questioned by the main users of its output, this is how you would do it.

So, again, you have to ask yourself why the league and FA would not only persist with it but, in some ways, double down in the face of mounting criticism.

Perhaps we will never know.

 

[invisibleandalone]

I wonder what odds you'd get from a bookie for a red card for a dipper or a penalty to us?

How many stars are there in the universe /1 .

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

They don't need every game just the dipper one to screw us over.

And that's my biggest worry.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Tierney not allowed to ref this coming weekend cos he favoured one of our title challengers; he is allowed on var for our other challenger instead. Thats all ok then

Ycmiu

 

[Kippax77]

Tierney not allowed to ref this coming weekend cos he favoured one of our title challengers; he is allowed on var for our other challenger instead. Thats all ok then

What a punishment.
I bet he doesn't try being so blatantly corrupt again, after this.

 

[bluenova]

Tierney not allowed to ref this coming weekend cos he favoured one of our title challengers; he is allowed on var for our other challenger instead. Thats all ok then

And a statement from PGMOL saying it definitely isn't a punishment,

 

[bluenova]

Obviously not a City game, but a result that could have a huge impact on the title race.

Clearly the goal was a RED herring.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Casemeiro definitely gets a touch which VAR oversees, it would have been given during the Pisscans reign at the shithole,his 13 title successes were littered with them with no VAR to intervene.

yep. hence why VAR is needed.
prior VAR a ref can point to the spot whenever he feels like. blows my mind people would prefer that.

 

[Phil1]

yep. hence why VAR is needed.
prior VAR a ref can point to the spot whenever he feels like. blows my mind people would prefer that.

It blows your mind that some people have followed football for decades and decades without VAR and managed to love the game regardless?
Maybe the younger generation demand a game with 100% accuracy but not everyone. Some accept that jeopardy and bad calls are part and parcel of the game and prefer that over the loss of spontaneous celebration or standing about for 5 mins letting the game lose momentum whilst they come to a decision that’s sometimes still wrong?
I know it’s hard for your brain to grasp this.

 

[alexmcity]

bad calls are part and parcel of the game

...especially when they favour certain (red) teams, like the bad calls in April 2018 when City had such calls against them vs Liverpool (in both CL games at that) and United (that Young leg breaker on Kun), all of them within 6 days.

There are pros and cons re: VAR, but I prefer VAR as it decreases the chance of being blatantly shafted, even though it doesn't cancel it.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Credit where credits due, a lot better than I was expecting....and will be a lot better than Alti next week at Anfield.

I’ve heard it’s Oliver with Twatwell on VAR again. Not very subtle having that incompetent **** on it again , could be worse it could be Tierney I suppose

 

[halfcenturyup]

...especially when they favour certain (red) teams, like the bad calls in April 2018 when City had such calls against them vs Liverpool (in both CL games at that) and United (that Young leg breaker on Kun), all of them within 6 days.

There are pros and cons re: VAR, but I prefer VAR as it decreases the chance of being blatantly shafted, even though it doesn't cancel it.

Yet they still find new ways .....

 

[Nellies left peg]

yep. hence why VAR is needed.
prior VAR a ref can point to the spot whenever he feels like. blows my mind people would prefer that.

Unless the VAR is operated like rugby the doubt in people’s minds that it is dodgy will remain . Football survived and flourished long before VAR and the influence of Sky and TNT pundits who are in their ear. The ref can point to the spot now and if the VAR doesn’t want to make his mate look a **** he can go with the infield decision as Mike Dean has said he’s done in the past

 

[Phil1]

...especially when they favour certain (red) teams, like the bad calls in April 2018 when City had such calls against them vs Liverpool (in both CL games at that) and United (that Young leg breaker on Kun), all of them within 6 days.

There are pros and cons re: VAR, but I prefer VAR as it decreases the chance of being blatantly shafted, even though it doesn't cancel it.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their own view on the perceived value of VAR.
For me personally it’s not made things better, it should be, but it’s not.

Whilst we have the worst set of refs that I can remember sitting in the little room with several screens and super slo-mo and still cocking up I can’t accept it’s an improvement.