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I didn’t think it was a penalty. Telles got a toe to the ball and didn’t deviate direction when stretching out his leg.

I also didn’t think CR37’s challenge was a red card.

Fernades should have been booked for his challenge though.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I didn’t think it was a penalty. Telles got a toe to the ball and didn’t deviate direction when stretching out his leg.

I also didn’t think CR37’s challenge was a red card.

Fernades should have been booked for his challenge though.
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Ronaldo's challenges in our game and in the Liverpool game both could easily be interpreted as serious foul play, in my opinion.
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MillionMilesAway said:
I thought he caught de Bruyne on the knee.

Fernandes not getting booked was just plain wrong, I thought.

The Ronaldo and Telles things are things you'll see being punished with more than was given.
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I think the Telles one is where the biggest debate lies.

More and more, we’re seeing fouls given when the ball has been won.

Granted, it doesn’t strictly matter, but how is a defender supposed to slide/stretch out a leg to poke the ball away without making contact with the attacker?

If Telles had got a full foot to the ball and smashed it behind for a corner and then tackled Jesus in the follow through, should that be a penalty?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I think the Telles one is where the biggest debate lies.

More and more, we’re seeing fouls given when the ball has been won.

Granted, it doesn’t strictly matter, but how is a defender supposed to slide/stretch out a leg to poke the ball away without making contact with the attacker?

If Telles had got a full foot to the ball and smashed it behind for a corner and then tackled Jesus in the follow through, should that be a penalty?
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Yes, it isn't clear cut. I would say the argument comes down to the minor touch and his followthrough hitting Jesus' foot as he tried to push off from it. I don't think Telles got enough of the ball to take it away from Jesus.

A harder followthrough would depend on whether the ref at WHU was reffing when it would be play on, the ref at Everton where it was yellow, or the VAR man at Everton who thought it was red!
 

Then in the dying moments of the Red Devils’ funeral march in the derby, Ronaldo flew on in a prone Kevin De Bruyne, who had already been fouled by Bruno Fernandes.

Bruno getting remotely close to a City player was an eyebrow-raising moment in itself, but Ronaldo then slid studs first into a defenceless opponent. Haven’t Kevin’s ankles been through enough, Cristiano? Oliver showed a mercy yellow card, with the overall hopelessness of United’s situation again granting Ronaldo the leniency he didn’t deserve. It was exactly the same with his roughhousing of Jones.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
The Bottler needs to be renamed. He didn't bottle that pen he just decided no matter what he wasn't giving it. The ball's out of play so he could have a VAR check, go over to the monitor, but no, he ain't gonna give us the chance of another goal. From where he was he could not have seen any nick by the defender on the ball. Just wasn't giving it!

I'm just watching the Brentford v Norwich game and Pukki is in the goal area and gets taken out, only the goalie to beat, ref gives the pen but yellow cards the defender, six yards from the goal. Laporte was forty yards from the goal and gets a red. No one will convince me that the LotG are applied even-handedly, fairly and with unimpeachable impartiality. And the LotG will tell us that the pen awarded against the defending side is the 'red card'! What a fuckin' balls up!
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I would rename him "The Company man."

I use this term as I recall a throwaway comment made by Martin Tyler before a match he was officiating against us a few years ago (might have been spurs at home?) where Tyler said he spoke to OliVAR about the LoTG and Oliver mentioned there has to be a balance of using them and "protecting the product."
 
hertsblue said:
Yep
And the handball v Spurs
And the non penalty early on at Anfield
And the non penalties in the final v Dippers
etc etc etc

Enough evidence for a new dossier eh City, get him off our games
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Well remembered.
Are you Leslie Welch from another life?
 
mat said:
I would rename him "The Company man."

I use this term as I recall a throwaway comment made by Martin Tyler before a match he was officiating against us a few years ago (might have been spurs at home?) where Tyler said he spoke to OliVAR about the LoTG and Oliver mentioned there has to be a balance of using them and "protecting the product."
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Be careful not to use the LOTG if your pay masters don’t want the outcome of using the LOTG.
 
mat said:
I would rename him "The Company man."

I use this term as I recall a throwaway comment made by Martin Tyler before a match he was officiating against us a few years ago (might have been spurs at home?) where Tyler said he spoke to OliVAR about the LoTG and Oliver mentioned there has to be a balance of using them and "protecting the product."
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A balance of using them?

A player is either one side of the law or the other. That is the only balance that should matter, but we all know this is not the case.

And as for 'protecting the product'; that tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about the PiGMOL and the Premier League.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I think the Telles one is where the biggest debate lies.

More and more, we’re seeing fouls given when the ball has been won.

Granted, it doesn’t strictly matter, but how is a defender supposed to slide/stretch out a leg to poke the ball away without making contact with the attacker?

If Telles had got a full foot to the ball and smashed it behind for a corner and then tackled Jesus in the follow through, should that be a penalty?
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It all depends if the referee considered the challenge to be careless, reckless or dangerous. In my view the challenge on Jesus was careless - he got the slightest of touches on the ball but clearly took out the player. If it had been the other way round - clearly got the ball and a slight touch on Jesus that would be fine.

In the example you give if he a got a full foot to the ball and the follow through wasn't careless, reckless or dangerous that would be fine too.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
A balance of using them?

A player is either one side of the law or the other. That is the only balance that should matter, but we all know this is not the case.
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And as for 'protecting the product'; that tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about the PiGMOL and the Premier League.
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It's use will slowly spread to journos and managers when it suits and become legit.
 
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