Ref Watch

Odd take - in just the league games against City, Liverpool should have had Milner sent off (Anfield) and then Thiago & Fabinho (Etihad). As much as we capitulated last night, in both games City were on top when it was 11vs11 and would likely have forced a result. By your logic, that negates the 6 points for Arsenal, Wolves and Everton
Yeah, but plastic dippers don't do logic.
 
Odd take - in just the league games against City, Liverpool should have had Milner sent off (Anfield) and then Thiago & Fabinho (Etihad). As much as we capitulated last night, in both games City were on top when it was 11vs11 and would likely have forced a result. By your logic, that negates the 6 points for Arsenal, Wolves and Everton
We also has VAR manipulation to disallow a perfectly good goal against Liverpool which would put us 4 points clear of them with 4 games remaining rather than just 1.
 
Odd take - in just the league games against City, Liverpool should have had Milner sent off (Anfield) and then Thiago & Fabinho (Etihad). As much as we capitulated last night, in both games City were on top when it was 11vs11 and would likely have forced a result. By your logic, that negates the 6 points for Arsenal, Wolves and Everton
In the same breath Silva (I think) was lucky not to get sent off against liverpool for 2 yellows, like I said these decisions come and go for every team, we’ve had more than our fair share of luck and also bad luck, just like others have as well.

I’m as frustrated as everyone, but last nights result was down to the game management, not the ref. Yes RM should have had a player off, but Walker was lucky to stay on the pitch as well. Laporte was lucky not to get a second yellow

Why couldn’t city run the game down like European teams do? We seemed fine to time waste in the first half, but when needed at 85 mins+ their heads went and were unable to do so.

The ref blew his whistle 7 seconds early and people are going mad on social media about that, I think that sums up last nights result, a lot of people wanting to blame something for the result other than the poor game management.
 
Not a big CL lover by any stretch but fuck me we get (helped by ourselves) year after year a shitty end of the stick.

Cost us the FA cuo last year, just hope it's not going to cost us the Prem this time.
 
In the same breath Silva (I think) was lucky not to get sent off against liverpool for 2 yellows, like I said these decisions come and go for every team, we’ve had more than our fair share of luck and also bad luck, just like others have as well.

I’m as frustrated as everyone, but last nights result was down to the game management, not the ref. Yes RM should have had a player off, but Walker was lucky to stay on the pitch as well. Laporte was lucky not to get a second yellow

Why couldn’t city run the game down like European teams do? We seemed fine to time waste in the first half, but when needed at 85 mins+ their heads went and were unable to do so.

The ref blew his whistle 7 seconds early and people are going mad on social media about that, I think that sums up last nights result, a lot of people wanting to blame something for the result other than the poor game management.
He blew about 10 minutes early, given the ball was in play for about 5 minutes in the 2nd half of extra time.
 
In the same breath Silva (I think) was lucky not to get sent off against liverpool for 2 yellows, like I said these decisions come and go for every team, we’ve had more than our fair share of luck and also bad luck, just like others have as well.

I’m as frustrated as everyone, but last nights result was down to the game management, not the ref. Yes RM should have had a player off, but Walker was lucky to stay on the pitch as well. Laporte was lucky not to get a second yellow

Why couldn’t city run the game down like European teams do? We seemed fine to time waste in the first half, but when needed at 85 mins+ their heads went and were unable to do so.

The ref blew his whistle 7 seconds early and people are going mad on social media about that, I think that sums up last nights result, a lot of people wanting to blame something for the result other than the poor game management.

I'm not in disagreement that the result last night was down to game management, the point of yours I was referring to was that Liverpool hadn't had 'luck' that impacted the result of a game. Which is a surreal take considering the games we have had against Liverpool. Granted, there's no guarantee that a result would have been different (there's no way of knowing), but on the balance of probability, those results would likely have been different.
 
Definitely a lot off with him last night.

- Casemiro could of been sent off about 3 times
- Foden booked for being jumped on
- 6 minutes of added time for them for 1 injury to Walker
- 3 minutes of added time for us for multiple injuries and time wasting, should of been at least 6
- Blew for full time 10 seconds early

The only thing he got right was their penalty, he lost the plot with the rest.

There's a weird trend against us where refs 'let the game go'. Fabiano should of gone off against Liverpool after 3 yellows that should of been. There was Athletico who got away with murder over two legs. There was that Leeds player last week who injured himself with a bad challenge because he wasn't sent off earlier and this week it's Casemiro.
 
It's the subtle disparities in decision making that gets to the players. Kev and Phil well off the boil because of the way the game was being 'managed'. Real players were emboldened, and that gave them the edge.

It's something that's often difficult to pick up on when you get wrapped up in the action, but if you take a step back and just observe the actions of the officials you'll see subtle differences that make huge differences to the outcome of games.

Anyone remember the moment in the 1st half where the referee fist bumped Modric? Our players would have picked up on that 100% and I'm sure it must have got to them big time because that would NEVER happen if the game is being moderated fairly.
Is this what you are referring to? I’ve never seen anything like it

 

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