Ref Watch

[Bluearmy]

This is the image just before Young makes contact with Aguero, half way up his lower leg.

Completely out of control, wild and reckless.

Remember what Kompany got sent off for a few years previous!! Reffed totally differently...

 

[Paladin]

Always wondered what kind of folks become refs. Think I have the answer.

Haha. If you mean me, I was a referee. My highlight was running the line at Maine Road, and meeting Francis Lee.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Because there isn't one.

Me neither because there isn't 1, had keeper touched it ball it would have gone to Foden's

The ball moves only from Foden's touch.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Haha. If you mean me, I was a referee. My highlight was running the line at Maine Road, and meeting Francis Lee.

I was a ref - Gorton and District Sunday League. The highlight was a game at Debdale Park where one of the managers was giving me the kind of treatment I came out with on Wednesday when Jonny Moss woke from his trance and said "Pen? What pen? Play on!" but from the first minute. So I went over to book the bastard and he wouldn't give me his name, so it was fuck off then, I'm abandoning the game and went home.

 

[aguero93:20]

Remember what Kompany got sent off for a few years previous!! Reffed totally differently...

Kompany probably holds the record for red cards rescinded.

 

[Paladin]

I genuinely, and with complete honesty, cannot see a touch on the ball by the keeper.

Fair enough. As I say, to me, it looks like there is a slight deviation in the path of the ball on both clips. If there is one, it must come from the 'keeper.

I'm not going to labour the point further, as I don't want to fall out with anyone over the incident. But the important thing isn't whether or not the goalkeeper touched the ball (something Chris Foy said Moss would have looked for) but whether he committed a foul, which he definitely did.

 

[Blue Feather]

Who would have taken the pen?

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Fair enough. As I say, to me, it looks like there is a slight deviation in the path of the ball on both clips. If there is one, it must come from the 'keeper.

I'm not going to labour the point further, as I don't want to fall out with anyone over the incident. But the important thing isn't whether or not the goalkeeper touched the ball (something Chris Foy said Moss would have looked for) but whether he committed a foul, which he definitely did.

No worries, mate. You have stated your reasons clearly, concisely and without the need to resort to insults.

And that's all anyone can ask for.

 

[aguero93:20]

Who would have taken the pen?

Dinho I reckon.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Interesting that the PL are canvassing clubs regarding VAR and the total shitshow produced under the auspices of the cunts who are employed by PiGMOL.

Not sure why this is required when it is so blatantly obvious ( to me at least ) that the fuckwit/corrupt twats have used the system to ensure that teams playing in red have derived the most benefit from the "application " of the process whilst others have been fucked over on a regular basis.

Perhaps it is the staggering arrogance displayed in the game against Southampton which has forced this request, even if the PL have achieved their proclaimed desire to see certain teams win the PL.

Football needs transparency if the VAR sytem is to be continued and improved with all the communications between officials beaing clearly heard by the fans, and surely the leeway between the attacker's bollocks being in an offside position needs some sensible and intelligent application.

Fucked off of Wilmslow

 

[Bandofblues]

Haha. If you mean me, I was a referee. My highlight was running the line at Maine Road, and meeting Francis Lee.

Genuine question. How was that allowed if you support City?
Irrespective of your personal integrity and I have no reason to doubt that you wouldn't officiate 100% honestly for both teams but surely no-one should be allowed to be put in that situation?

 

[Doctor Jimmy and Mr Jim]

Who would have taken the pen?

Eddie!!

 

[crazyg]

1894 in action as we speak, if he posts the lie often enough people will believe him.

To paraphrase the late Eric Morecambe, you've got the right numbers - but not necessarily in the right order.

;-)

 

[St.Pauli support]

Obviously a PL ref can't trust his VAR colleague. In that case pitch side monitor checks must be obligatory for a ref to discuss it with the VAR.
Maybe 2 idiots do see more than 1 idiot. In-cre-dee-ble.

Andy Madley HAS to make a public statement so we can find out if he's able to do a VAR job (in obvious cases like this one). I'm still very excited to hear his version. Come on PGMOL, we're waiting!

Btw, Mr Madley will be VAR again next Monday: Wolves vs Liverpool...

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Obviously a PL ref can't trust his VAR colleague. In that case pitch side monitor checks must be obligatory for a ref to discuss it with the VAR.
Maybe 2 idiots do see more than 1 idiot. In-cre-dee-ble.

Andy Madley HAS to make a public statement so we can find out if he's able to do a VAR job (in obvious cases like this one). I'm still very excited to hear his version. Come on PGMOL, we're waiting!

Btw, Mr Madley will be VAR again next Monday: Wolves vs Liverpool...

Don't hold your breath as the last thing the PL, FA and PiGMOL want is transparency.

Losing the opportunity to "influence" results is not what they have in mind.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Surely you'll find a better overview, but I had a look at ref's stats,
only PL matches 20/21:

Ref on field........PL matches....Yellows.....Reds....Penalties

Atkinson....................22............51..........2...........2.....
Oliver.......................21............62..........1...........15....
Taylor.......................19............51..........2...........10....
Dean........................18............62..........5............6....
Marriner....................18............48..........0............7....
Tierney.....................18............70..........2............5....
Friend......................17............37..........2............4....
Moss........................17............37..........0............4....
Attwell.....................16............67..........1............5....
Kavanagh..................16............47...........0............3....
Pawson.....................15............57..........2.............6....

I know it's just this season, but at a quick look I have highlighted some numbers (in relation to matches reffed).
Atkinson is defo cautious with penalties.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Ref stats are meaningless to me nowadays. Its the VAR refs that are changing results and no one knows who they are in general) but the other night it should have been a penalty.. But for all we know that man mioght have given twenty pens to Utd and none to City. It's all turned to cloak and daggers VAR stuff imo and it needs calling out and holding to account.

IE precisly who is making the decisions in the VAR room and what do their season stats look like? Are they awarding an enormous amount to certain teams? wtf, no wonder the PL are pushing VAR so much, it gives them much more control over decision making.

Anyone got those stats for VAR refs?

 

[Sheik Battle and Goal]

Obviously a PL ref can't trust his VAR colleague. In that case pitch side monitor checks must be obligatory for a ref to discuss it with the VAR.
Maybe 2 idiots do see more than 1 idiot. In-cre-dee-ble.

Andy Madley HAS to make a public statement so we can find out if he's able to do a VAR job (in obvious cases like this one). I'm still very excited to hear his version. Come on PGMOL, we're waiting!

Btw, Mr Madley will be VAR again next Monday: Wolves vs Liverpool...

Sourness summed up this shitshow in one succinct sentence... they make it up as they go along

Doesn’t get more damning than that

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Obviously a PL ref can't trust his VAR colleague. In that case pitch side monitor checks must be obligatory for a ref to discuss it with the VAR.
Maybe 2 idiots do see more than 1 idiot. In-cre-dee-ble.

Andy Madley HAS to make a public statement so we can find out if he's able to do a VAR job (in obvious cases like this one). I'm still very excited to hear his version. Come on PGMOL, we're waiting!

Btw, Mr Madley will be VAR again next Monday: Wolves vs Liverpool...

He'll have a great game, no doubt looking through red mist.

 

[Paladin]

Genuine question. How was that allowed if you support City?
Irrespective of your personal integrity and I have no reason to doubt that you wouldn't officiate 100% honestly for both teams but surely no-one should be allowed to be put in that situation?

It was very low down the football chain. The game was City Youth v Walsall Youth, maybe in the early nineties. City won 2-0. Lee was chairman at the time. He came into our dressing room, introduced himself, and welcomed us to Maine Road. Nice touch.

The appointment was made by Manchester County FA. There are no club allegiance problems at that level.