Ref Watch

It was very low down the football chain. The game was City Youth v Walsall Youth, maybe in the early nineties. City won 2-0. Lee was chairman at the time. He came into our dressing room, introduced himself, and welcomed us to Maine Road. Nice touch.

The appointment was made by Manchester County FA. There are no club allegiance problems at that level.
Should have just pretended you supported Altrincham *nudge nudge wink wink*, would have gotten plenty of our league games then, we might even have stayed up.
 
I can't believe people can't see that Macarthy got a touch on the ball. Look at those two clips again, and look only at the ball. You can clearly see the ball take a slight change in direction after Foden kicks it forward. It is as plain as day. In the clip from behind, you can see the ball ultimately goes at a tangent to the direction Foden kicks it.
Which ball?
 
I can't believe people can't see that Macarthy got a touch on the ball. Look at those two clips again, and look only at the ball. You can clearly see the ball take a slight change in direction after Foden kicks it forward. It is as plain as day. In the clip from behind, you can see the ball ultimately goes at a tangent to the direction Foden kicks it.
And the opposite angle shows he's nowhere near the ball to impart a direction change, so for something you say is 'as plain as day' it clearly isn't. Anyway, it's a moot point as either way it's still a foul.
 
In the states, my television view of the game was from an NBC broadcast (does NBC use a UK feed for the game? - I don't know for sure).

At any rate, on NBC, the Foden foul just wasn't clear based on the NBC feed during the game - NBC showed a couple of quick, inconclusive angles and moved on - my initial impression was that it was a foul... I didn't see any evidence that it wasn't a foul on replay... but nothing was conclusive to make matters clear. At the time I gave VAR/refs the benefit of doubt - but not now of course having seen the full body of evidence.

But the penalty call against Laporte was obviously ridiculous - immediately so. Laporte did have his hand on Vestergaard, but not a foul IMO - this happens all the time. Vestergaard, feeling contact, leapt backwards into the air - just prior to the leap, Laporte did have his feet directly behind Vestergaard but when Vestergaard pulled his theatrics, Laporte had withdrawn his feet - it's a clear dive.

For whatever reason, NBC live commentators thought that this was a penalty. I've no idea how they reached this obviously wrong conclusion. Tim Howard at halftime stated diplomatically that the penalty was "soft" - IMO - it wasn't a penalty at all.

Desired procedure for the Laporte call - IMO - would have been for VAR officials to ask that the onfield ref take a look at replays before proceeding. Yes there was contact so I suppose that one could claim that this was a penalty - but at the same time it looked like a dive. So ask the onfield ref to take a look at replay to make sure that he stood by his initial decision. Taking a look at replay I'd like to think that he'd have reversed his decision.
 
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I can't believe people can't see that Macarthy got a touch on the ball. Look at those two clips again, and look only at the ball. You can clearly see the ball take a slight change in direction after Foden kicks it forward. It is as plain as day. In the clip from behind, you can see the ball ultimately goes at a tangent to the direction Foden kicks it.
Chris Foy said "from one camera angle it looks like the GK might have got a slight touch on the ball, but looking from the other camera angles you can clearly see this was not the case"
Regardless of any slight contact the GK took out Foden, 100% penalty, not sure why you are clouding the issue.
 
Great to hear many of our rivals managers coming out and challenging VAR after the Foden incident.

Dyce summed it up perfectly while commenting on the overall shit state of the game when he said 'you get nothing for trying to do the right thing and everything for doing the wrong thing'

When you watch the Dippers and the Rags,the two most shithouse clubs for manufacturing a decision,its abundantly evident that we are officiated to in a very different manner.

Decisions used to balance themselves out over a season,but for us,those days have long gone,and that isn't down to anything other than intervention and corruption.

You have to admire their continued,although ultimately unsuccesful,efforts to derail us though.......the pathetic,bitter,cunts.
How else would Mr Scudamore get his outcome. Trouble is we're too bloody good, generally.
 
I can't believe people can't see that Macarthy got a touch on the ball. Look at those two clips again, and look only at the ball. You can clearly see the ball take a slight change in direction after Foden kicks it forward. It is as plain as day. In the clip from behind, you can see the ball ultimately goes at a tangent to the direction Foden kicks it.
But what you have not realised was that it was Foden who kicked the ball onto MaCathy’s foot that doesn’t mean the keeper played the ball. The two footed tackle was crude and dangerous, that was a penalty for anybody but us.
 
Nah. Even Southampton centre backs have been taught the Fosbury Flop should a gnat land on their shoulder now. Totally within the laws of the game.
Yes the Fosbury Flop is a good comparison for some divers particularly Salah.
From now on l will be keeping an eye on refs but also commentators who instantly agree with refs decisions benefiting the favoured teams (whether playing or not).
They are in straight away, so emphatic even in unclear or confusing incidents.
Hinchcliffe opened my eyes to this with his instant decisions in the three penalty calls on Wednesday.
 
Surely you'll find a better overview, but I had a look at ref's stats,
only PL matches 20/21:

Ref on field........PL matches....Yellows.....Reds....Penalties

Atkinson....................22............51..........2...........2.....
Oliver.......................21............62..........1...........15....
Taylor.......................19............51..........2...........10....
Dean........................18............62..........5............6....
Marriner....................18............48..........0............7....
Tierney.....................18............70..........2............5....
Friend......................17............37..........2............4....
Moss........................17............37..........0............4....
Attwell.....................16............67..........1............5....
Kavanagh..................16............47...........0............3....
Pawson.....................15............57..........2.............6....

I know it's just this season, but at a quick look I have highlighted some numbers (in relation to matches reffed).
Atkinson is defo cautious with penalties.
What's more disturbing in that list is that Oliver had given a penalty in nearly every game he's reffered this season
 
But what you have not realised was that it was Foden who kicked the ball onto MaCathy’s foot that doesn’t mean the keeper played the ball. The two footed tackle was crude and dangerous, that was a penalty for anybody but us.
There might be a handful of clubs who wouldn't get that, but there are two for whom it would be nailed on and the added bonus of a red card. Reckless, indifferent tackle that could have bust an ankle or a shin. If yer gonna make a tackle like that you have to nigh on certain yer gonna get the ball. The goalie made a bollocks of the back pass and tried to redeem the situation with a wild challenge. I can excuse Jonny Iron Lung when I'm in a good moment for not having a clear view, although the whole point of a ref running round the field is to obtain the best view he can get, but there is no excuse for VAR not coming up with a pen. The decision and deliberately selected view of the incident and chosen camera angles sits perfectly with the Turkish ref getting fed up with VAR in the game of Llorente's arm/goal. It's dereliction, and if it's not dereliction is fucking bare-faced, brass-necked cheating.
 

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