Ref Watch

richardtheref said:
Watched the challenge again today by Rudiger as not sure I could give an unbiased opinion after 10 pints. Rudiger raises his arm just before contact. I have no doubt he meant to "do" Kevin. Think it's fair enough the ref not seeing this on the field as happened off the ball and you don't always get a clear view of these as you naturally follow the play. However, would expect VAR to pick this up given they had 5 minutes to look at it. Also, surely the ref should be thinking that there is more to this due to the severity of the injury.

Also think VAR did not give the handball penalty as the ref made such a show of the ball hitting James chest 1st before hitting his arm that they would make him look an idiot by telling him it's a pen. Replay shows never hit his chest at all. When I was watching it live I thought at 1st the ref was pointing to his arm saying no penalty.

And my final point. Why was he crying at the end. Collina would never have done that.
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He’s a ****
 
Paladin said:
I agree, I thought he was slightly in favour of them in 50/50 decisions, and some inconsistencies in treatment of similar incidents between both teams. But none of this has any impact on the result. Also, you could see instances where he could have penalised us but didn't. Overall, I think he was quite fair.

He did blow for full time after 6:57 of the minimum 7 minutes added time, and that after some delays and timewasting had occurred.
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Not that the 3 seconds or whatever would have made any difference but I agree, even just little things like that...
 
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WRicko said:
Reading the laws of the game I think I can see an argument for sending Rudiger off but I am confused as I think I have seen those tackles before result on yellows and no or little damage / danger to the opposing player what did Rudiger do different ?
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The collision between his shoulder and KDB’s head is what made it dangerous.
 
Watched the challenge a few times now. On balance I think it was deliberate but thats only after studying it numerous times. The telling motion to me is that Rudigers natural momentum would have allowed Kevin to run inside him after he released the ball. Rudiger plants his left leg to halt the momentum and Kev runs straight into him.That planting of the left leg was a deliberate conscious action to block Kevs run. The referee must have concluded that to be the case (he gave a yellow) and after considering the injury to Kevin which was obviously serious should have sent Rudiger off for causing serious injury.
 
Chris in London said:
The collision between his shoulder and KDB’s head is what made it dangerous.
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To me, its a deliberate block on Kevin. Its the outcome which dictates the severity of the sanction. In Kevins case an obvious and serious injury should have been punished with a red card. It matter little what Rudigers intention was. It was a deliberate block in which he lead with his shoulder which impacted the side of Kevins face. It wasnt a simple collision as Rudiger deliberately checks his natural momentum to ensure the collision.
 
northstandgiveusasong said:
Not that the 3 seconds ot whatever would have made any difference but I agree, even just little things like that...
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Yeah. It's not the three seconds, but those plus another 30 for their timewasting would still have been within the minimum seven minutes that were given. Chance for another attack.

As you say, those little things went against us.
 
For me Rudiger should have got a straight red. I can understand the ref giving a yellow so that we didn't get a hasty reaction but VAR could see quite clearly that Rudiger made no attempt to play the ball, that he stepped deliberately into Kev, that there was no accidental clash of heads as he seemed to be claiming and that the damage was done because Rudiger deliberately smashed his shoulder into Kev's face. If that isn't serious violent conduct what is?

I notice the BBC describes it as "a collision" and that Kev "suffered" the injuries from some unidentified mystery source. Rudiger points out that it was "of course" unintentional (how could anyone think otherwise?) and neither mention the free kick awarded or that it was so obviously intentional that the player got a yellow. At the time Macmanaman thought Rudiger was very lucky indeed only to get a yellow and Belgium's manager has made his outrage known.
 
I think shoulder challenges are fair but the consequence after should be taken into consideration. Any excessive force and danger to opponent is straight red card . So why is fractured nose (part of our head ) and subbed out not deemed as excessive force?
This is modern football not from 80s .
 
mat said:
Despite reservations about him , after watching it I thought he got PL football. He let things go that wouldn't have been allowed in his own league.

I hope Reilly was taking note.
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Not a chance Reilly and The Stockley park crew were paying attention.
 
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I see Bobby Madley has been forgiven by PGMOL after they sacked him in 2018. He is so much back in favour that he is currently refereeing the Div.2 play-off match between Morecambe and Newport at Wembley.
 
Gray said:
I see Bobby Madley has been forgiven by PGMOL after they sacked him in 2018. He is so much back in favour that he is currently refereeing the Div.2 play-off match between Morecambe and Newport at Wembley.
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And he'll still be way out of his depth. Really hope this bastard isn't heading back up the ladder!
 
Gray said:
I see Bobby Madley has been forgiven by PGMOL after they sacked him in 2018. He is so much back in favour that he is currently refereeing the Div.2 play-off match between Morecambe and Newport at Wembley.
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Keeper punched a player and the fat **** ignored it.

Blobby is still shite.
 
Gray said:
I see Bobby Madley has been forgiven by PGMOL after they sacked him in 2018. He is so much back in favour that he is currently refereeing the Div.2 play-off match between Morecambe and Newport at Wembley.
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He is only back because his girlfriend binned him. If she hadn't he would still be sat on his arse.

He was once a mentor to a couple of class 4 refs but never once watched them ref a game. He used to get the said ref to write up his own report and Bobby would then put his name to it.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Nah.

The ref set the tone early doors with the disparity in dishing out fouls. He blocked passing channels and his decision to blow for a foul when we had a clear advantage certainly wound up Kev.
His antics annoyed our players and emboldened Chelsea. With the added pressure of the game we didn't have enough to deal with it.
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If you have ever played the game at any organised level you know the impact a biased/seemingly biased referee can have, and the building sense of frustration that comes when every foul from them is treated as a hard tackle and every hard tackle your team puts in is a foul. When every time you want the advantage he blows for a foul and every time you want the foul he plays an advantage. I remember yelling at a ref because I had played a pass that went out just after I had been fouled and he had played an advantage. “You shouldn’t have put it in Row Z then” was what he said. The next thing he did was book me because I called him a blind ****.

You get that sense within 10-15 minutes of kick off and there is nothing you can do about it. The other side know it, too. They know when they will get away with snide shots like Rudiger’s. And when it’s like that unless you are streets ahead of the opposition you usually lose. All the 50/50s seem to go one way, and quite a few 60/40s. And because you are angry and frustrated, you lash out either with your feet or your tongue, and you get booked, like I did.

Of course at that level they are highly trained professionals and should not react. But they are human.
 
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