Ref Watch

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Eventually pulled it back and gave a yellow. One he'd played on he couldn't give a Red card.

Probably under instructions not to give a red at any costs unless it was absolutely blatant, but in my opinion that was.
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If the fact he played on stopped a VAR revue then that is bloody stupid.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Same area of recklessness as Ayling got his marching orders. Another example of random variations in the application of the LotG within the same game, in opposing halves, the next game, games played within a twenty five mile radious - all different outcomes! I think that PiGMOL has some difficulty in understanding what consistency means. But there again they can claim they are consistently wayward in the variety of their decisions.

I watched MotD2 just to see what the studio had to say about the 'tackle' on Grealish and the wrestiling-cum-rugby variations at corners but there was not a word or a frame!
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Thought it was as bad if not worse than the Ayling tackle, PGMOL are answerable to nobody that is the problem.
 
Dermot looks gravely ill these days.
He shouldn't be burdening all those lies Sly pay him to preach.
He will have to repent soon if he is to meet his maker
 
Gray said:
If the fact he played on stopped a VAR revue then that is bloody stupid.
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I doesn't stop a VAR review. The rule is that if the ref is going to give a red, then he has to stop the game. VAR can obviously still review, otherwise how could they ever review anything the ref had missed?

Still, in my opinion, it looked worse at full speed. On the replay, pretty sure he had both feet on the ground and it looked like he completely missed Grealish with them, but ended up with more of a tackle by tackle.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
What is found noticeable today was the number of times our player making a pass was bumped and barged, hitting the turf, to make sure he couldn't partake of any further part in the move he had just begun.
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It was disgraceful, and he let them off with it every time, maybe we are a bit weak in some challenges, but this was something else.

One of the worst refereeing displays I've ever seen, and that is saying something.
 
es1 said:
Playing on is irrelevant to getting a red card in this scenario (red for a bad tackle).
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As far as I am aware the game must be stopped immediately for serious foul play (red card offences) if the referee on the field deems its a red. He didn't so we are then into 'clear and obvious error' territory and I guess VAR (if they even reviewed it at all) didn’t think he'd made a mistake.
 
Gray said:
If the fact he played on stopped a VAR revue then that is bloody stupid.
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imo Fabinho should have been shown a red card for his 'tackle' on Bernardo at our place, subsequently serving a three match ban . Assuming one of the games would've been the FA Cup semi v City. Spurs would then be his second match back after serving the ban .He should now have a further three game ban for his elbow on Son, therefore missing five of the last seven league games. The officials do appear to show them more leniency than others and that's putting it lightly.
 
bluenova said:
I doesn't stop a VAR review. The rule is that if the ref is going to give a red, then he has to stop the game. VAR can obviously still review, otherwise how could they ever review anything the ref had missed?

Still, in my opinion, it looked worse at full speed. On the replay, pretty sure he had both feet on the ground and it looked like he completely missed Grealish with them, but ended up with more of a tackle by tackle.
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Yeah, I didn't think it was on the Ayling scale. Looked more yellow than red to me, from memory.

My understanding is that you're also right on process - the ref says in the mic "yellow card to be given on stoppage". VAR then look to see if a recommendation for a red card is appropriate. It won't go on the screen, because there is no stoppage to explain.
 
bernard o'silver said:
imo Fabinho should have been shown a red card for his 'tackle' on Bernardo at our place, subsequently serving a three match ban . Assuming one of the games would've been the FA Cup semi v City. Spurs would then be his second match back after serving the ban .He should now have a further three game ban for his elbow on Son, therefore missing five of the last seven league games. The officials do appear to show them more leniency than others and that's putting it lightly.
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Fabinho should have been sent off, but there's a major inconsistency with the refs and VAR that won't change and we have to just accept it unless VAR is adopted by an independent panel who aren't refs.

Look at the tackle Kane did on Robertson, clear red and he didn't even get a yellow, don't like going against City players but silva was lucky not to get 2 yellows against liverpool and how many times have we gulped after a Fernandinho challenge over the last couple of years and then breathed a sigh of relief when he hasn't been asked to walk off the pitch.

Richarldson is another prime example of someone who gets away with a lot of bookable challenges.

Until the refs are held accountable for their decisions it'll be the same old next season.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
As far as I am aware the game must be stopped immediately for serious foul play (red card offences) if the referee on the field deems its a red. He didn't so we are then into 'clear and obvious error' territory and I guess VAR (if they even reviewed it at all) didn’t think he'd made a mistake.
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ideally yes, but the ref can play advantage and red card once the ball goes dead (not quite that simple in reality but it's definitely possible)
 
es1 said:
ideally yes, but the ref can play advantage and red card once the ball goes dead (not quite that simple in reality but it's definitely possible)
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I think he can only play advantage if there is a clear goal scoring opportunity. Which of course begs the question, if you’re red carding a player for ‘denial of a goal scoring opportunity‘ but the attacking team still score, would you still be sent off? Common sense says absolutely not but………
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I think he can only play advantage if there is a clear goal scoring opportunity. Which of course begs the question, if you’re red carding a player for ‘denial of a goal scoring opportunity‘ but the attacking team still score, would you still be sent off? Common sense says absolutely not but………
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Yeah that's the advice, only if there's clear opportunity to score

If the offence is dogso and ref plays on then it would be a yellow card (as the goal scoring chance was restored)
 
How bad is Moss the useless twat. All his shit decisions have gone in the scousers favour. What a surprise.
Just a wank penalty next for Liveypool the bent wanker.
 
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