Ref Watch

[elbearos]

No mate it was " clear and obvious " :)

Pen all day, he tried to handle it

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yeah, it was barely a foul by Mahrez, and wasn't stopping an obvious attack either, there were players ahead of the attacker. Pretty much our first foul, and Lewis had been fouled at least 3 times by then, this happens to us week in, week out.

I thought Mahrez was unlucky, but the forward was in front and fell over - it's pretty much a certain yellow card. However on that one, the forward was only marginally in front and changed to run across Mahrez - nothing Mahrez could do about the contact at all. The type of foul forwards used to buy off Richard Dunne.

The clogging was pretty obvious - 6 fouls recorded in 25 minutes is a lot in any game, and a card should have come out for at least one of them. I assume Lewis was a target because there aren't many other defensive players you can knock out of their game.

I've seen elsewhere that the crowd got on the ref's back - well, yes, a lot of fouls with no cards will do that.

I appreciate that I'm in a minority, but I didn't think the handball was a penalty. Richarlison did have his arm up, but he was hit up at the top of the arm (on the T-shirt line) as he was turning away rather than further away from his body. Could have been given, but it wasn't that solid as I saw it.

 

[Ali B's Heel]

Oh when the ref hides his cards,
Oh when the ref hides his cards,
There's only gonna be one winner
When the ref hides his cards ... City!

Let them know!

 

[MillionMilesAway]

As I sit in the SS L3 can someone who watched it on TV tell me was Grealish fouled as he ran through late on it certainly looked like it to me, also apparently there was a handball by Richarlison, was there? And finally Haaland seemed to be brought down late on in the box, was it a penalty?

From the main pictures on Sky:
Grealish - looked like a push at normal speed, but no replays were shown from any other angles
Richarlison - I've said that my opinion was no, it hit him at the top of the arm.
Haaland - assuming that this is Haaland/Lloris, I think he slipped when reacting to where the ball had gone. A replay suggested his studs just didn't get purchase on the ground. Nothing in it.
or there was one where there was possible contact with a defender. Memory doesn't tell me that it was that much of a claim, a collision rather than a foul. Would be happy to reconsider that memory if video was available.

 

[dadnlad]

Even then it wouldn’t matter as they answer to no one and as we saw after the derby their mouthpieces in the media all close ranks and spout the same mantra.

subjective

 

[Stoned Rose]

Just thinking again about how Riyad was carded for trying to avoid making contact with a spurs player whilst Hojberg continually hacked away at Rico and Jack before he got a card… then he and other Spurs players continued doing it.

And we wonder why players were hesitant to give it back last night.

The officials know exactly what they’re doing.

If that Holjberg ever comes in The Claremont he’s getting a pool cue to the face the shithouse.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

If that Holjberg ever comes in The Claremont he’s getting a pool cue to the face the shithouse.

Glad to hear its still open.

Am absolutely sick of having to beat the officials as well as the opposition. The ref last night was appalling.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

If that Holjberg ever comes in The Claremont he’s getting a pool cue to the face the shithouse.

Normally I wouldn't condone violence- but that bullying shithouse was a disgrace- aided and abetted by the ref of course.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Normally I wouldn't condone violence- but that bullying shithouse was a disgrace- aided and abetted by the ref of course.

Someone needed to go over and have a word, Dias not on the pitch but Alfie jr could have looked at the shithouse.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

I appreciate that I'm in a minority, but I didn't think the handball was a penalty. Richarlison did have his arm up, but he was hit up at the top of the arm (on the T-shirt line) as he was turning away rather than further away from his body. Could have been given, but it wasn't that solid as I saw it.

The T-shirt rule was abandoned, the handball rule starts at the shoulder now. So the only questions are is his arm in an unnatural position, has he made himself bigger and has the ball touched any part of his arm. It's a yes on all those questions. stonewall penalty

 

[Allnightlong]

The T-shirt rule was abandoned, the handball rule starts at the shoulder now. So the only questions are is his arm in an unnatural position, has he made himself bigger and has the ball touched any part of his arm. It's a yes on all those questions. stonewall penalty

ha....is that true? if so 100% penalty he knew what he was doing.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

From the main pictures on Sky:
Grealish - looked like a push at normal speed, but no replays were shown from any other angles
Richarlison - I've said that my opinion was no, it hit him at the top of the arm.
Haaland - assuming that this is Haaland/Lloris, I think he slipped when reacting to where the ball had gone. A replay suggested his studs just didn't get purchase on the ground. Nothing in it.
or there was one where there was possible contact with a defender. Memory doesn't tell me that it was that much of a claim, a collision rather than a foul. Would be happy to reconsider that memory if video was available.

I think the Haaland one is on the edge on the box when he falls over as a defender is near him, similar to the Mahrez booking, not the incident with Lloris. Grealish one was just a joke not to give and the Richarlison one I called in real time at the game, staggered it was rejected after a few seconds given that his arm was at right angles to his body making is larger and it hit him on the top of his elbow. Penalty all day long under the current laws. Look at his face as he jogs out of the box, he knows it's a penalty

 

[M16 citeh]

Oh when the ref hides his cards,
Oh when the ref hides his cards,
There's only gonna be one winner
When the ref hides his cards ... City!

Let them know!

There was a guy in front of me who was enthusiastically waving his own yellow card every time the refs went missing was cracking me up I might have to start bringing one too

 

[Ajm1985]

From the main pictures on Sky:
Grealish - looked like a push at normal speed, but no replays were shown from any other angles
Richarlison - I've said that my opinion was no, it hit him at the top of the arm.
Haaland - assuming that this is Haaland/Lloris, I think he slipped when reacting to where the ball had gone. A replay suggested his studs just didn't get purchase on the ground. Nothing in it.
or there was one where there was possible contact with a defender. Memory doesn't tell me that it was that much of a claim, a collision rather than a foul. Would be happy to reconsider that memory if video was available.

Yeah it looked a push - Grealish was fuming about it and chased after the ref

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The T-shirt rule was abandoned, the handball rule starts at the shoulder now. So the only questions are is his arm in an unnatural position, has he made himself bigger and has the ball touched any part of his arm. It's a yes on all those questions. stonewall penalty

Ah, yes it's armpit now - cheers.
I still don't think it hit him significantly outside his body shape from what I've seen.

This was posted earlier - he's close, his arm is out but the contact is very close to his shoulder/body silhouette as he turns. Could be given, but far from nailed on in my opinion.

View attachment 66525If anyone ever mentions Rodri last season, this definitely cancels that out.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yeah it looked a push - Grealish was fuming about it and chased after the ref

I did wonder why it wasn't replayed, it seemed important. There seemed no reason for Grealish to fall over without a helping hand there as he was ahead of the defender.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I did wonder why it wasn't replayed, it seemed important. There seemed no reason for Grealish to fall over without a helping hand there as he was ahead of the defender.

You see a lot of this now, no replay for contentious decisions or they show the worst angle possible where the actual incident cannot be seen.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think the Haaland one is on the edge on the box when he falls over as a defender is near him, similar to the Mahrez booking, not the incident with Lloris. Grealish one was just a joke not to give and the Richarlison one I called in real time at the game, staggered it was rejected after a few seconds given that his arm was at right angles to his body making is larger and it hit him on the top of his elbow. Penalty all day long under the current laws. Look at his face as he jogs out of the box, he knows it's a penalty

Cheers, without a replay of that Haaland incident, I couldn't say if anything dodgy happened.

 

[Ajm1985]

From Dale Johnson re the handball



Listened to him on the Bluemoon pod and his breakdown of the Rashford offside was better to hear than in his article. Emphasised how unlucky it was and how the more palatable decision would have been offside

 

[danielwood5]

From Dale Johnson re the handball



Listened to him on the Bluemoon pod and his breakdown of the Rashford offside was better to hear than in his article. Emphasised how unlucky it was and how the more palatable decision would have been offside

He's also full of shit, the Rodri handball wasnt a 'howler', it was the correct decision according to the bullshittery of the laws that were in place last year.
Don't get me wrong, in any other year that would be a handball but because of the 't-shirt line' law they brought in to help out VAR the fact that the video replay showed that the ball may have touched above that imaginary line meant it couldn't be a penalty under their stupid VAR guidance.
The fake outrage over the Rodri incident is just gaslighting to make the scousers feel better and to gloss over the mess they've been making with changing the rules to better suit VAR.