Ref Watch

MillionMilesAway said:
There isn't really a clear rule for it, as it's ref's call in most cases. In the last weeks, I've seen it called back if the ball is lost quickly and sometimes it isn't.
It tends to depend on retention of the ball, closeness to the opponent's goal, any advantage in numbers of attack vs defence.

It may depend on why the ball is subsequently lost - e.g. if a bad pass goes out of play, it's not to do with the offence, and shouldn't necessarily be pulled back. It won't be called back after more than 2-3 seconds.
The only thing in the laws is about applying bookings after advantage, and advice not to play advantage for a sending-off offence (2nd yellow, violent conduct, serious foul play - note, not for denial of goal-scoring opportunity).

Rugby advantage is very different depending on if it's a knock-on or penalty. A knock-on advantage will often ended very quickly, pretty much as soon as they've advanced downfield - that's the closest to a football advantage.
A rugby penalty advantage is the one that lasts much longer and tends to equate to a free play - there's no comparison between a penalty advantage in rugby and any advantage in football.
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Great write up many thanks. helps me understand. Still unsure of some rugby rules so that helps too :)
 
swinton blue said:
What I noticed on the grealish pen incident is that the ref didn't actually make a decision. He didn't wave his arms to say no penalty I don't think he even pointed for a goal kick
It seems he was using var to ref the incident which its not there to be used like that
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That’s exactly what I said at the time. Shithouse. Referees now think it’s ok to do nothing and hope VAR bails em out. Pathetic on all levels and ultimately it will lead to, or maybe it already has, refereeing by video.
 
wolfie1988 said:
This current batch of referees are the worst there has ever been. Since the retirement of the more senior officials, there's only really Oliver and Marriner who seem capable of keeping a lid on the game.

Coote lost control of that within 15 minutes today and he's lucky the game lost it's competitive edge once we'd scored the first.
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Oliver and Marriner are absolute wank and I’d happily never have them again.
 
bluwes said:
Gundo was down for nearly 5 minutes
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Seemed like that to me, plus there were various other stoppages in the first 20 mins, including the minute it took him to slowly saunter across to book their manager. We are being cheated out of time every week by clueless/cheating officials (delete as appropriate). We have the worst refs in Europe by miles
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Totally bottled giving a Red Card for the foul on Gundogan. Anyone who has played the game at any lever knows full well that there was ZERO intent to play the ball and EVERY intent to 'leave one on' the player.
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Yep, if that wasn’t a dangerous challenge which was meant to inflict serious harm on an opponent I really don’t know what is
 
BringBackSwales said:
Yep, if that wasn’t a dangerous challenge which was meant to inflict serious harm on an opponent I really don’t know what is
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As far as I understand it, that challenge can't be retrospectively looked at because the ref gave a yellow.

Basically the PiGMOL declaring open season on City players if they aren't going to effectively punish challenges like that.
 
swinton blue said:
What I noticed on the grealish pen incident is that the ref didn't actually make a decision. He didn't wave his arms to say no penalty I don't think he even pointed for a goal kick
It seems he was using var to ref the incident which its not there to be used like that
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Which begs the question….if the ref doesn’t make a decision either way how can VAR decide not to intervene? They can’t hide behind there was insufficient evidence to overturn the referee’s decision because he didn’t make one. I was quite far away from that decision & the confusion around me meant nobody questioned it, basically it looked that much of a penalty we all thought he must of dived when it wasn’t given
 
for the best league in the world the standard of refereeing is fuckin abysmal, and that includes the twats on var duty who have multiple camera angles and still manage to fuck it up, the commentators agreed that was a penalty on glealish today, it's time the fuckers were made to explain themselves
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
As far as I understand it, that challenge can't be retrospectively looked at because the ref gave a yellow.

Basically the PiGMOL declaring open season on City players if they aren't going to effectively punish challenges like that.
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I don’t mean why it wasn’t looked at, I meant why didn’t David Coonte give a red in the first place
 
Worst decision of the weekend was at Klanfield. Within the first 3 or 4 minutes Robertson wiped out a Chelsea player with an ill timed challenge that appeared to be premeditated. However, the referee seemed to give him leeway as it was so early in the game. Fast forward a few hours and Palace defender Guehi committed a similar tackle albeit not as nasty and was given a yellow card after 3 minutes.
The inconsistency of how different teams are referred stinks.
 
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lazerblue said:
for the best league in the world the standard of refereeing is fuckin abysmal, and that includes the twats on var duty who have multiple camera angles and still manage to fuck it up, the commentators agreed that was a penalty on glealish today, it's time the fuckers were made to explain themselves
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I’ve always thought that the Prem league should have refs and VAR officials from Europe and ours should go over there.
 
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