Ref Watch

[Jesus H Gabz]

At the game I thought 100% pen wtf is going on, I’m actually on tv behind Pep going mental! watched the full game today and looked at it several times & thought pen (forget lotg it was just my opinion) then I found myself talking myself out of it, based on the theory of what if the players involved where in the corner of the pitch, and Partey was doing the old time wasting shielding the ball thing, then Kev kicks through him ? Then I realised if this was in our box it would of definitely been given

 

[Bluearmy]

As you say in this instance he is allowed to shield the ball. No different to the player who shields the ball out of play without attempting to actually play the ball

Its not shielding the ball as can be clearly seen here, he plants 6 studs into kdb’s ankle first. If you dont think this is a foul you’re a fool

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Ok, then please explain what my view is and why it is wrong. Because I, and one or two others, have made points that you haven't addressed.

I'll save you the effort and summarise.

Yes, Partey goes to shield the ball, but his right leg goes into Kev's standing leg before Kev kicks Partey. Partey initiates all contact. He fucks up shielding the ball and commits a foul.

If any of that is wrong, please let me know. There's nothing wrong with admitting a mistake, I did earlier in this thread.

The rule is you can shield the ball without making contact. Partey made contact. And Kev definitely got to that ball first. Pen all day long.

 

[Sky Blue]

Graham Poll?

Yep, pun intended.

 

[Bluearmy]

Just watched a Newcastle defender shielding the ball back to his keeper & guess what................no penalty

Unfortunately for you Partey planted his studs into KDB’s ankle as can be clearly seen here. You're a fool

 

[Gazza]

In this thread - see richardtheref jump the shark.

 

[lee one pen]

Did aliens build the pyramids?

I sphinx so

 

[Bluearmy]

I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.

Whats the rule about planting 6 studs into someones ankle in the box…??

 

[lee one pen]

Whats the rule about planting 6 studs into someones ankle in the box…??

I think they call that a foul mate.

 

[Bluearmy]

As already said, you’re seeing it in slow-motion from the correct angle - Oliver sees it once, at full speed from a completely separate angle and so only sees De Bruyne kick the back of Partey’s leg.

Im no fan of the guy and think it’s crazy that he’s the best we have, but on this decision alone he’s pretty blameless.



As Oliver has clearly seen the incident, albeit likely from a bad angle, Coote would need balls of stone to overrule his boss’s directives and recommend Oliver take another look…..and from past experience everyone knows Coote is a coward of a ref.

This is the angle he saw it from.

 

[Bluearmy]

I get this and thought this myself at first. However watching it again it looks like Partey goes into Kev's standing leg before Kev makes contact with Partey.

confirmed

 

[Bluearmy]

KDB was 100% attempting to play the ball - Partey was 100% playing the man. Penalty 100%.

Confirmed. 6 studs in Kev’s ankle

 

[Bluearmy]

I think they call that a foul mate.

Who knew

 

[Bluearmy]

Can't as he has already reffed an FA Cup final

And yet you ues replays that show Kev kicks him. Partey is merely defending, the only time he did last night

The replays dont as can be clearly seen here. What are you watching?

 

[Bluearmy]

The laws of the game my friend. Love it when people who have never ever read the laws argue with you. If that was at the other end and the ref gave a penalty you would be one of the 1st to scream about it IMO

Explain pillock

 

[BringBackSwales]

In this thread - see richardtheref jump the shark.

What does that even mean?

 

[BringBackSwales]

The laws of the game my friend. Love it when people who have never ever read the laws argue with you. If that was at the other end and the ref gave a penalty you would be one of the 1st to scream about it IMO

Or maybe people other than refs are allowed opinions about the performance of refs

 

[knuckles]

I sphinx so

don't tell his Mummy :)

 

[BringBackSwales]

don't tell his Mummy :)

Pharaoh enough (in my defence I’ve been in it all afternoon and evening)

 

[Bluearmy]

Just watched it again on City+, the commentary for the penalty is as follows, from 8:12:
" Ramsdale's spilt it, De Bruyne's brought down, penalty!.. no, what's Michael Oliver given? What's he given Michael Oliver?... Well it looked like a foul on De Bruyne, what's he given Michael Oliver?...He's given a free kick to Arsenal and not a penalty to City. Well I am not sure what he thinks has just happened there? Andy?... It's looks as though he's insinuating De Bruyne has... stepped across..., yeh... I can see Partey has just got his foot in there, and De Bruyne's has...yes I can see why, but initially, yeh, I can see it's the right decision, and in fact it's a very, very good decision because you can see the initial thought is penalty, and I think everyone of us thought it was, but, looking at it, he's correct...Well in reality what happened was De Bruyne went to hit the ball into the back of the net, after Ramsdale's spilt it, Partey came in to stop De Bruyne, De Bruyne's took a swing to where he thought the ball was and kicked Partey, and the two of them then fell over. So it is one of those where Michael Oliver has the gut instinct that it was the attacker that caused the collision, rather than the defensive midfielder, and it's the reason Andy felt it wasn't a penalty, "

I still think Oliver was very biased to Arsenal, but unfortunately I have to agree with the City commentary on the early penalty.

Unfortunately this is a pile of shit as can clearly be seen here, where Partey has planted all 6 studs into Kev’s ankle/leg…

No idea what planet some people are on