Ref Watch

[Colin Bells Boots]

Dermot needs to learn the ofside rules

Needs lessons in impartiality and ojectivity instead of simply supporting the incompetent PiGMOL stooges who have fucked up.

 

[Odd socks]

Watched ref watch this morning and like always city in the wrong, dippers always right so no change there and I watch for entertainment value only
First time to see the dippers offside and they didn't forensically spend much time checking it compared to ours.
Personally I think both should have been disallowed but once done it's done.
By the way Sky we won the second half 3:0 so didn't really change anything but let's not dwell on small details.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I am pretty sure that's the case, as that's the bit about "making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball". But everything I've seen suggests that it has to be because the attacker has done something to deliberately put that doubt in their mind - and they appear to be ruling out getting out of the way of the ball.

I still don't know if this is the most recent guidance - but couldn't find anything more recent, and I don't believe the laws or steps involved in deciding have changed.

Could be but I dont see how the keeper in the Akanji case is supposed to know that the opponent was making a deliberate action to i) jump over the ball, or ii) try to deflect it, until it was too late to react? It may be clear after the event, but in that split second it makes all the difference.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Did anyone else think like me that on Saturday Oliver didn't have the slightest interest in the game. I'm getting the impression when he turns up at The Etihad he would be sooner somewhere else. And when we score, and VAR, for shame, can't chalk it off, the look of disdain is one where he realises that someone has pissed in his half time cup of tea.

 

[dadnlad]

In defence of refs, players and managers are not helping, they are themselves creating situations which doesn't help the ref and sometimes backfires on themselves.

what like heading the ball clear of penalty area then falling to floor as if shot game stopped
attacking side get ball back 6 yards from own goaline

 

[Chris Holmes]

Can't believe Fulham haven't been called up before the Premier League Beak to be done for their gamesmanship (continually throwing a 2nd ball on) and for the amount of players who confronted ref Oliver at the centre circle, Where was the Ruben Third Man Rule on Saturday?

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the decision, their protests went on too long and there were too many of them. Some other clubs would be warned and hit with a £40,000 fine.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Can't believe Fulham haven't been called up before the Premier League Beak to be done for their gamesmanship (continually throwing a 2nd ball on) and for the amount of players who confronted ref Oliver at the centre circle, Where was the Ruben Third Man Rule on Saturday?

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the decision, their protests went on too long and there were too many of them. Some other clubs would be warned and hit with a £40,000 fine.

Just reminded me Walker kicked if off and hit one of the backroom staff behind the knee making his leg jerk....the sort of thing we'd do at school kneeing someone on the back of the leg to make it bend ...even from the far side of SS3 the Fulham lad wasn't happy, Kyle just told him to fuck off.

 

[bluenova]

Could be but I dont see how the keeper in the Akanji case is supposed to know that the opponent was making a deliberate action to i) jump over the ball, or ii) try to deflect it, until it was too late to react? It may be clear after the event, but in that split second it makes all the difference.

The reality is maybe not the same as the rules? I completely agree that it's distracting for the goalkeeper - but it looks to me like the one in the guidance would also be.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Did anyone else think like me that on Saturday Oliver didn't have the slightest interest in the game. I'm getting the impression when he turns up at The Etihad he would be sooner somewhere else. And when we score, and VAR, for shame, can't chalk it off, the look of disdain is one where he realises that someone has pissed in his half time cup of tea.

It’s hard for me to say but, on reflection, they got the goal spot-on. I was laughing at the time, thinking we’d got away with one, calling the ref’s incompetent. However, having seen the look on his face, nonchalantly dismissing the Fulham claims and shrugging his shoulders, I had to take a look at myself and how the rules are applied.

In my mind, and according to the last time I read the rules, he’s interfering with play and there’s no doubt at all in my mind. But, on reading the rules again, it became clear that he was right and I was wrong. Just shows that as they keep refining these rules, it’s hard to keep up with what the actual LotG are.

Every day is a school day.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Webb's going to be on Sky/TNT later this week for another Match Officials Mic'ed Up.
Not sure Michael Owen will add much to it.

Looks like 8 pm on Wednesday for Sky, and 8.30 for TNT.

 

[Taylor]

Webb's going to be on Sky/TNT later this week for another Match Officials Mic'ed Up.
Not sure Michael Owen will add much to it.

Looks like 8 pm on Wednesday for Sky, and 8.30 for TNT.

Owen will add nothing of note to it!

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

There will no doubt be some serious mental gymnastics from Webb in trying to convince us that the PiGMOL stooges are doing a fantastic and totally impartial job , whilst papering over the favorable decisions shown to the rags and dippers.

They presumably expect supporters to swallow all their lies and excuses for corrupt decisions and fuck-ups, and try to persuade the gullible that the future is in good hands.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Webb's going to be on Sky/TNT later this week for another Match Officials Mic'ed Up.
Not sure Michael Owen will add much to it.

Looks like 8 pm on Wednesday for Sky, and 8.30 for TNT.

A PR disaster clean up mission.

They'd have someone like the dog wanker on if they were being serious about justification for their decisions.

 

[eastlandsblue]

Hard to reconcile the VAR decision not to give Luton a pen for the Ward Prowse handball with the decision against Jack in the cup final.

My grandson has just completed is course to become a referee. During the course they said, Jack's handball would no longer be considered a goal. They've also referenced Rashfords offside along with others, to be considered learning curves. How professional referees can't these wrong is beyond me

 

[eastlandsblue]

Did anyone else think like me that on Saturday Oliver didn't have the slightest interest in the game. I'm getting the impression when he turns up at The Etihad he would be sooner somewhere else. And when we score, and VAR, for shame, can't chalk it off, the look of disdain is one where he realises that someone has pissed in his half time cup of tea.

To the point, non of the officials warmed up before the match

 

[Gray]

Webb's going to be on Sky/TNT later this week for another Match Officials Mic'ed Up.
Not sure Michael Owen will add much to it.

Looks like 8 pm on Wednesday for Sky, and 8.30 for TNT.

Thanks for warning me.

 

[Gray]

My grandson has just completed is course to become a referee. During the course they said, Jack's handball would no longer be considered a goal. They've also referenced Rashfords offside along with others, to be considered learning curves. How professional referees can't these wrong is beyond me

Jack’s wasn’t a handball in the true meaning of the term, the ball barely brushed against a finger as it was heading towards the touchline. No way would that action have prevented the pathetic Rags from scoring an undeserved goal. VAR decide it’s a penalty and the ball is placed on the spot yards from the incident to give that ugly horrible fucker a free shot.

I for one will never forgive PGMOL for the injustice.

 

[spinney]

Jack’s wasn’t a handball in the true meaning of the term, the ball barely brushed against a finger as it was heading towards the touchline. No way would that action have prevented the pathetic Rags from scoring an undeserved goal. VAR decide it’s a penalty and the ball is placed on the spot yards from the incident to give that ugly horrible fucker a free shot.

I for one will never forgive PGMOL for the injustice.

That was a disgraceful decision but I knew they would give if for them

I was on the 1st row of the 5th level and almost climbed over the wall I was so angry

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Jack’s wasn’t a handball in the true meaning of the term, the ball barely brushed against a finger as it was heading towards the touchline. No way would that action have prevented the pathetic Rags from scoring an undeserved goal. VAR decide it’s a penalty and the ball is placed on the spot yards from the incident to give that ugly horrible fucker a free shot.

I for one will never forgive PGMOL for the injustice.

The old rule of accidental handball which didn't result in a free kick has morphed into a gift for some clubs and a penance for others. No matter the intention, if a ball is diverted from its original trajectory it should be a free kick, if players manufacture a larger outline and it prevents the ball travelling to where it was going then a free kick, and even if it occurs in the area it should be a free kick and not a penalty. Penalties should be reserved for what is blatant handball of the type Dickie Dunne seemed to practice with some regularity when his mindset turned to netball or Handball Henry juggling the ball on the goal line and ending with a French goal, plus, of course, a pen when Hoolihan or Erlihan are cleaned out. To give a pen for the Grealish incident turns the game into a farce. But PiGMOL, the whistling wanker on the day, and the VAR numpties were desperate to get the Rags back in the game, which their ordinary wretched play would never deliver.

 

[Gray]

The old rule of accidental handball which didn't result in a free kick has morphed into a gift for some clubs and a penance for others. No matter the intention, if a ball is diverted from its original trajectory it should be a free kick, if players manufacture a larger outline and it prevents the ball travelling to where it was going then a free kick, and even if it occurs in the area it should be a free kick and not a penalty. Penalties should be reserved for what is blatant handball of the type Dickie Dunne seemed to practice with some regularity when his mindset turned to netball or Handball Henry juggling the ball on the goal line and ending with a French goal, plus, of course, a pen when Hoolihan or Erlihan are cleaned out. To give a pen for the Grealish incident turns the game into a farce. But PiGMOL, the whistling wanker on the day, and the VAR numpties were desperate to get the Rags back in the game, which their ordinary wretched play would never deliver.

In the very same game the onfield wanker and his mates in VAR commited an even bigger error when Casemiro cleaned out Akanji and deliberately stamped on his ankle and foot. The decision made by the numpty in charge was a free kick to the Rags and VAR stayed strangely silent about the whole thing.