Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

richardtheref said:
I told the FA I was a City season ticket holder. Didn't stop them appointing me to ref City ladies in the FA cup. Even after I pointed it out to them. Apparently the mens and women's teams are 2 altogether separate entities
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For all they knew you followed the city women as passionately too. Backs up my point to me that they aren't overly arsed.
 
The more I think about the ref's performance on Saturday, the early kick-off to the weekend's terrestrial F.A. Cup coverage, the BBC's obvious commentary and general coverage bias against us, the more I see an attempt at creating a cup upset.

Well, you all tried to give the masses a little Saturday dinnertime smile, didn't you?

This bloke was as much a stooge as any I've ever seen before. The "non-foul" which receded their goal, the "non-penalty" at 1-1 (game over, goodnight vienna), the "tackle" on Jack ...etc...etc...etc. and that's just the obvious stuff, I won't even go into the general "fair tackle/foul" decisions throughout the match which seemed to be determined by shirt colour or the pantomime crowd reaction.

Unlucky you joker!
 
richardtheref said:
I told the FA I was a City season ticket holder. Didn't stop them appointing me to ref City ladies in the FA cup. Even after I pointed it out to them. Apparently the mens and women's teams are 2 altogether separate entities
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bastards took me off a women's league cup semi final when i told them!!! was a strange appointment to get but would have been a brilliant game to be a part of.
 
Stephen230 said:
Seems to be something that’s been completely overlooked by everyone ever since ‘keepers started wearing non green shirts on a regular basis.

You could barely distinguish him from the City players when he came up for that free kick.
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Same can be said for keepers wearing short sleeved shirts, just another law that's been allowed to dissolve into the ether.
 
richardtheref said:
I told the FA I was a City season ticket holder. Didn't stop them appointing me to ref City ladies in the FA cup. Even after I pointed it out to them. Apparently the mens and women's teams are 2 altogether separate entities
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A bit like the equivalent of saying you’re an Altrincham fan and therefore can’t possibly also be a rag
 
Stephen230 said:
I’ve never heard of that ever being mentioned in the laws?
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Was always in the laws as it was one of those "What can goalkeepers not do that all other players on the pitch can do?" quiz questions.

Seemed that keepers were allowed to wear them around 1994 (US World Cup) and then others followed and it's now ignored or even taken from the laws.

Was always about aiding the ref to make decisions about handball in the area.

It definitely was a law, 100%
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Was always in the laws as it was one of those "What can goalkeepers not do that all other players on the pitch can do?" quiz questions.

Seemed that keepers were allowed to wear them around 1994 (US World Cup) and then others followed and it's now ignored or even taken from the laws.

Was always about aiding the ref to make decisions about handball in the area.

It definitely was a law, 100%
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Was brought in to prevent players like Skrtel punching the ball away at Anfield. Oooops, sorry, don't know how that slipped through.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Was always in the laws as it was one of those "What can goalkeepers not do that all other players on the pitch can do?" quiz questions.

Seemed that keepers were allowed to wear them around 1994 (US World Cup) and then others followed and it's now ignored or even taken from the laws.

Was always about aiding the ref to make decisions about handball in the area.

It definitely was a law, 100%
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I recall ITV kicking off about it when the rags lost a champions league cup tie to Marseille demanding a replay because their keeper wore short sleeves.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I recall ITV kicking off about it when the rags lost a champions league cup tie to Marseille demanding a replay because their keeper wore short sleeves.
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Sounds about right.

I just remember the quiz question and then the USA World Cup.

Unfortunately my memory doesn't really do specifics (individual historic matches) so much nowadays :)

I just remember there being a big discussion about it during the commentary at one of the early USA world cup matches when either Mexico or Colombia (definitely Latin/South American) keeper was wearing some crazy-patterned short sleeved pyjama set and that they (commentators) all believed that the law I mentioned still existed.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Was always in the laws as it was one of those "What can goalkeepers not do that all other players on the pitch can do?" quiz questions.

Seemed that keepers were allowed to wear them around 1994 (US World Cup) and then others followed and it's now ignored or even taken from the laws.

Was always about aiding the ref to make decisions about handball in the area.

It definitely was a law, 100%
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I’m not convinced to be honest. A quiz question doesn’t make it a law.

But I know someone who is as good as anyone in the country on the laws of the game, past and present. I will ask them and report back.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’m not convinced to be honest. A quiz question doesn’t make it a law.

But I know someone who is as good as anyone in the country on the laws of the game, past and present. I will ask them and report back.
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It was never in the laws of the game that the keeper had to have long sleeves. All it ever said was he had to wear a different colour to all outfield players. The only change in recent times was that both keepers had to wear different colours to each other.
Incidentally the ref is supposed to wear a different coloured shirt to both sides, including keepers. How many times do we see a ref in yellow when 1 of the keepers is in yellow
 
Stephen230 said:
I’m not convinced to be honest. A quiz question doesn’t make it a law.

But I know someone who is as good as anyone in the country on the laws of the game, past and present. I will ask them and report back.
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richardtheref said:
It was never in the laws of the game that the keeper had to have long sleeves. All it ever said was he had to wear a different colour to all outfield players. The only change in recent times was that both keepers had to wear different colours to each other.
Incidentally the ref is supposed to wear a different coloured shirt to both sides, including keepers. How many times do we see a ref in yellow when 1 of the keepers is in yellow
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I get what you're saying Stephen, but as a past quizzer I remember past questions that once were things that you HAD to remember but which have since become redundant and this was one of those that you just HAD to know. (I'm speaking about me having to know, not anybody else, like a personal achievement thing - if that makes sense). Anyway, I'd be interested in your friend's knowledge, be nice to know if I've been remembering a NON-fact for about about 40 years :)

And Richard, I realise everything you write regarding the advent and development of keepers shirts is true (incidentally they didn't ALWAYS wear a different colour from their team mates) as is everything you say about the referee's shirts (Why couldn't they just be satisfied with wearing black? ;) but around the time that ALL colours were allowed for keepers (not just certain specific colours) and the development of crazy flashy keeper's kits (the history and reasoning behind all white and all black prior to these is quite interesting, well, to me, but I suppose that doesn't make it and "ergo" moment :), I believe(d) that it was in the laws.

Maybe it was just an unwritten thing like "giving the ball back to the opposition at a throw in after an injury".

Anyway, not a hill to die on, was just a throwaway remark I made earlier in the thread.
 
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I'm suprised this thread hasnt had 15 pages added to it.
I know he was not the reason we committed suicide but fuck me, bad ! He was their best defender.
Twice he got in our way, once he shoulder charged Haaland (sort of)
Couldn't stamp his authority on the penalty, that alone is 3 different issues, it was that much of a farce.

Simply put, he was not upto such a big game.
 
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