Referees' Performances | 2025/26

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The only logical course of action is to take the evidence to pogmol and demand an explanation including access to all communication between var and referee. Because as you say, it on the face of it is mind boggling wrong on any level never mind subjective. These games are fine margins and the referee undoubtedly turned the game.

Oh no, wait, Dimwit Gallagher says on SKY that it wasn’t a penalty! I’d like to see him take that challenge and repeat that bullshit!

 

[SatOnTheWall]

Referee in “Agreeing with other referee” shocker.

The phrase “shit to a blanket” springs to mind.

 

[manimanc]

That shithouse ref we had and the bellend for the rags game both look sneaky fuckers, both look like they are clueless and get told how to ref games in a certain way.

 

[Blue Mist]

Why VAR offside images are not always what they seem

When the Premier League rolled out semi-automated offside technology we thought we would lose the rows about offside.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well the good old beeb have cleared it all up. All down to a 5cm tolerance level in the premier league:

"But the tolerance level causes other issues, too. Unlike in other competitions, because of it the animation does not move directly in line with the players. And it is often unclear exactly which part of a player is being used for the offside decision....And in other cases, Dias being a good example, a player's body position on the animation does not seem to fully match up."

Nope, the offside should be judged from when the ball is struck and there is no way that Father Ruben was off the ground at that point.

What that article also states is that the player was offside but because of the tolerance level it was not offside. It's utter bullshit. They treat us like idiots.

 

[.db.]

What that article also states is that the player was offside but because of the tolerance level it was not offside. It's utter bullshit. They treat us like idiots.

I’ve just posted this in another thread but it links in to your posts here:

I really don’t mind a few inches here-or-there margins of error for the VAR offside system.

I actually think that even if Guimaraes’ toenail was offside and it was disallowed, I’d have said that’s too harsh on attacking football and gives no benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. We shouldn’t be looking for reasons for goals to be disallowed (unless something blatant is missed) and we should be looking for reasons for goals to stand as much as possible.

The overall thing is that the tiny margin for error we may have now is a miles better system than when these were called wrong without VAR…

The #23 in the offside position here scored in this playoff semi, no VAR in this game, the goal stood, and Orient got to Wembley:



VAR hadn’t yet come into the sport and Sane was given offside in the CL game against Liverpool here, when it was Milner who played the ball back to him, not a City player playing the ball forward to him… this goal would have made it 2-0 on the night and 2-3 on aggregate:



Scholes was flagged offside here in the CL quarters against Porto, this would have put Utd 2-0 up but this was disallowed and Porto equalised later on and went though on away goals (lol and all that, but it’s a shit decision, there are three players playing him onside):



This^ is what we’ve got VAR offside systems for because this was happening somewhere all the bloody time and it was becoming a joke when other sports had had video refs for decades.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Dipper Banks for Leeds.

At least his allegiance means he hates us both.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

Did Ref Watch not happen this week, normally it’s there for all to see, there’s no sign of it on Sky’s site, I had to google it to see the Dickhead Dermot say the challenge on Phil wasn’t reckless much to the dismay of the ex footballer on the show who pointed out the defender was completely off the ground at the point of contact, so it really should have been a Red card as well as a pen. Then he said of the handball penalty “it would have hit his body anyway” to justify not giving it.
What a crock of shit the officiating is in this country, if you performed that bad in any other job you would be sacked, so it must be bent mustn’t it.
Re: the rags, 46 red cards against the away teams at old toilet, wtf? It would interesting to see how other grounds compare.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

Regarding Red cards, it won’t be a surprise to see that there is no list showing how many cards have been shown at each ground.
As an aside a quick search revealed that the first player to receive a red card in the PL was City’s Mickey Quinn, I amazed to see that seeing as he’s never played for us!
No bias though is there.

 

[mattcity5]

Regarding Red cards, it won’t be a surprise to see that there is no list showing how many cards have been shown at each ground.
As an aside a quick search revealed that the first player to receive a red card in the PL was City’s Mickey Quinn, I amazed to see that seeing as he’s never played for us!
No bias though is there.
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Not sure it's bias, probably just incompetence. Very poor though!

 

[Blue Mist]

I’ve just posted this in another thread but it links in to your posts here:

All 3 are terrible decisions and especially the Orient one highlight the poor quality of our officials.
With regards to Var, there is a separate thread so I won't dwell on it to much, just to say that it isn't the equipment, it's the men using it that uis the problem

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

He'd get at least one but he'd have to be smacking his team-mates at Old Trafford.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

one minute 25 seconds onwards, what's the difference other than the fact the defender didn't dive in recklessly and Italian refs know the LOTG. Oops answered my own question.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

one minute 25 seconds onwards, what's the difference other than the fact the defender didn't dive in recklessly and Italian refs know the LOTG. Oops answered my own question.

Not wearing Blue and called City is the obvious answer.
The level of officiating in this country is shocking/bent*
*delete as applicable.

 

[halfcenturyup]

What that article also states is that the player was offside but because of the tolerance level it was not offside. It's utter bullshit. They treat us like idiots.

It was inevitable this bollocks would happen with the PL SAOT. The tolerance has never been properly explained or its effect shown on decisions made or the serious implication highlighted that UEFA and FIFA SAOT decisions are inherently flawed because they don't have one; the method of creating the CGI has never been properly explained either; and now we find out the CGI may not actually reflect the information on which the decision was based but is just for show. Once again it's a complete bollocks omelette. As I said it would be because of these issues when it was first introduced.

 

[Gordyola]

and now we find out the CGI may not actually reflect the information on which the decision was based but is just for show

I don’t think that is true they state that the CGI is generated from the data that tells technology suggests once the VAR has confirmed the validity
It is a little vague though

Once the decision is made – a decision visual will be sent to broadcast, giant screens in stadiums and shared on the @PLMatchCentre X account.

This will feature a 3D virtual replay of the relevant players identifiable by each team’s kit.

An offside decision will be shown with a red line and onside with a green line. A white vertical wall will represent the offside line, with a blue "pulse" on the defender’s relevant body part.

When an attacker is offside, the part of their body which is offside will appear through the white wall and be outlined in red.

The final image in the virtual replay will be on an angle, off-centre, to provide a clear view of the attacker and defender involved in the offside review and the "pulse" will no longer be displayed.

 

[Wardley Blue]

I don’t think that is true they state that the CGI is generated from the data that tells technology suggests once the VAR has confirmed the validity
It is a little vague though

Once the decision is made – a decision visual will be sent to broadcast, giant screens in stadiums and shared on the @PLMatchCentre X account.

This will feature a 3D virtual replay of the relevant players identifiable by each team’s kit.

An offside decision will be shown with a red line and onside with a green line. A white vertical wall will represent the offside line, with a blue "pulse" on the defender’s relevant body part.

When an attacker is offside, the part of their body which is offside will appear through the white wall and be outlined in red.

The final image in the virtual replay will be on an angle, off-centre, to provide a clear view of the attacker and defender involved in the offside review and the "pulse" will no longer be displayed.

Why can't we see the wall side on and NOT at the slanted views presently used. Open to manipulation.

 

[East Level 2]

Not bad last night. Didn't waste time giving us free kicks that we'd only waste anyway.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Not bad last night. Didn't waste time giving us free kicks that we'd only waste anyway.

He let the game flow but, I wonder what he'd have done if we'd actually put some stuff challenges in?

 

[willipp]

He let the game flow but, I wonder what he'd have done if we'd actually put some stuff challenges in?

I find CL games are generally like that and refs aren't the star of the show unlike the PL. They let the game flow and let players make challenges. Much prefer referees and VAR in Europe these days than the prem.