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[Vic]

Had no idea Jess Phillips was a racist grifter tbh?

Or was she just rightly concerned when calling for more to be done and a national inquiry into the grooming gangs when in opposition?

Wonder what changed for her?

What did she say when in opposition?

Do you really want to be on Musk's side in this nonsense?

 

[BlueHammer85]

He does. This UK stuff has nothing to do with the UK, ironically.

As I've said in the past, I read everything. Far left, far right, centre, socialist, communist, capitalist, fascist, etc. It gives you a well rounded view.

Musk's comments/proposals on the importance of bringing in H1B immigrants to the US has created a split in the Trump base. They started doubting Musk in terms of his commitment to "America First" or the idea that the US shouldn't import more workers from abroad. Musk has attached himself to Trump in such a way whereby any reflection on him is a reflection on Trump.

He failed their purity test. So instead of trying to win the argument, he's done a few things including banning a ton of critics but more importantly has shifted the conversation away from his controversial ideas on H1B to "Muslim rape gangs". Of course he couldn't target the US with this for fear of being labelled a negative influence so he has dredged up some horrific events in our recent history, told half the story, and then the Trump base is back on board.

This is an extremely obvious play and I'm not sure why others cannot see this for what it is - it's an attempt to repair the fractures on the US right and has nothing to do with the UK in the higher level.

Interesting, didn’t think that side of it.

 

[meltonblue]

He does. This UK stuff has nothing to do with the UK, ironically.

As I've said in the past, I read everything. Far left, far right, centre, socialist, communist, capitalist, fascist, etc. It gives you a well rounded view.

Musk's comments/proposals on the importance of bringing in H1B immigrants to the US has created a split in the Trump base. They started doubting Musk in terms of his commitment to "America First" or the idea that the US shouldn't import more workers from abroad. Musk has attached himself to Trump in such a way whereby any reflection on him is a reflection on Trump.

He failed their purity test. So instead of trying to win the argument, he's done a few things including banning a ton of critics but more importantly has shifted the conversation away from his controversial ideas on H1B to "Muslim rape gangs". Of course he couldn't target the US with this for fear of being labelled a negative influence so he has dredged up some horrific events in our recent history, told half the story, and then the Trump base is back on board.

This is an extremely obvious play and I'm not sure why others cannot see this for what it is - it's an attempt to repair the fractures on the US right and has nothing to do with the UK in the higher level.

Yep. The interesting thing will be more what Trump says.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Musk need to keep him ill-informed nose out of British politics. It's as simple as that.

 

[blueinsa]

What did she say when in opposition?

Do you really want to be on Musk's side in this nonsense?

You know full well what she said and demanded.

Unlike yourself and your “side”, I won’t ignore it either because it’s easier to do so.

 

[Damocles]

Do you really want to be on Musk's side in this nonsense?

I think people should listen to an argument and then critically analyse to rationally form their own opinion of a topic.

Must be so easy to be one of those people who believes things because they think they're "on the right side".

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I think people should listen to an argument and then critically analyse to rationally form their own opinion of a topic.

Must be so easy to be one of those people who believes things because they think they're "on the right side".

Musk is quite clearly a racist, his political interventions are almost always shit stiring in issues that white supremacists love to keep on the agenda. That's my conclusion.

 

[Damocles]

Musk is quite clearly a racist, his political interventions are almost always shit stiring in issues that white supremacists love to keep on the agenda. That's my conclusion.

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

And even if Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong. I struggle to see how people can function on this planet and think like this.
Morally bad people can have good and thoughtful ideas too, just not on the issues that they're morally bad on. Ideas are ideas, their truth value isn't determined by who said them.

 

[Vic]

You know full well what she said and demanded.

Unlike yourself and your “side”, I won’t ignore it either because it’s easier to do so.

I have no idea. I've looked. It's your claim.

 

[Vic]

I think people should listen to an argument and then critically analyse to rationally form their own opinion of a topic.

Must be so easy to be one of those people who believes things because they think they're "on the right side".

There is no argument. It's nonsense.