refs,what will it take?

[Rösler von Stretfordbömber]

virtually every sport in the U.S. has some sort of instant replay, so the debate in the UK and on bluemoon is absolutely astounding to me. you would think sports fans merely want the right decisions, but i guess not, some like this puritanical myth of "that's the game" and it "all evens out." lunacy, I say.

Ever tried watching an American football game? Rhetorical question, as I'm sure you have. Maybe it doesn't bother you, and that's fine. Everyone's got the right to their own opinion.

But for my part the endless stoppages are intolerable. And the endless replays are a big part.

I live in the US now and a lot of my friends have watched Throwball all their lives. Most of them say they liked it better before all the replays. They say the game had more flow, was quicker. When you saw something happen you could process it and not be thinking - yeah, we scored! but wait, are they going to review it?

See, to me it is astounding that anyone would want the replays because of this.

 

[IH8MUFC]

the f.a/prem/la liga et al... dont want it to be fair though. they want the rags/real to get the majority of the decisions as thy bring in the money. the studies show that its human nature to give more decisions to the team with the bigger crowds.

it also doesn't help when players are cheating left and right. theres plenty of times i have watched games and thought dives were clearly cut pens or free kicks. then there is offside which is an impossible rule to get right.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Simple Bill. The ***** need to realise that if they fuck up, they are off the gravy train.

Week in, week out they apply there own slant of the laws on to a game rather than just applying the laws knowing that fuck all will come of their shit and often biased decisions.

The **** from yesterday should sit it out without pay for at least a month and his next offence means no games for a year.

Im pretty sure that refs are actually asked to be there slant on officiating while still applying the laws of the game. There will hardly ever be 2 incidents the same in the space of a weekend and it depends where the ref is. Getting the 4th official more involved will slow the game down to a point of tedium. I was watching rugby the other day and the ref was using the TV ref for fucking everything

 

[Pigeonho]

The game is fine as it is, though unfortunately with the introduction of goal line technology, (which I agree with), we are on that slope to the game turning on it's head. It won't be a free-flowing game if the calls for complete technological assessments of incidents come in, as it won't stop with one particular incident, it will be called to come in for every single thing that happens and before you know it we will have a stop/start game of nonsense. Things even themselves out just fine for every club, yet no one will agree to that as people have their own beef when it comes to a decision going against their team, yet rarely see the ones that go for it.

I personally hope goal line tech is where the line is drawn, so to speak.

 

[moomba]

Rather have replays than incompetent refs deciding the outcome of games and seasons every week.

I like the challenge system used in NFL. It would make the integrity of the game better straight away.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

The game is fine as it is, though unfortunately with the introduction of goal line technology, (which I agree with), we are on that slope to the game turning on it's head. It won't be a free-flowing game if the calls for complete technological assessments of incidents come in, as it won't stop with one particular incident, it will be called to come in for every single thing that happens and before you know it we will have a stop/start game of nonsense. Things even themselves out just fine for every club, yet no one will agree to that as people have their own beef when it comes to a decision going against their team, yet rarely see the ones that go for it.

I personally hope goal line tech is where the line is drawn, so to speak.

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN<br /><br />-- 27 Nov 2013, 08:36 --<br /><br />

Rather have replays than incompetent deciding the outcome of games and seasons every week.

I like the challenge system used in NFL. It would make the integrity of the game better straight away.

Its very easy to have that in a stop start game though

Also im pretty sure its not every week, again football is like life where everyone thinks its not as safe outside as it was before rather than the fact that 24hr media which reports everything just makes you think it isnt

 

[Bill]

The game is fine as it is, though unfortunately with the introduction of goal line technology, (which I agree with), we are on that slope to the game turning on it's head. It won't be a free-flowing game if the calls for complete technological assessments of incidents come in, as it won't stop with one particular incident, it will be called to come in for every single thing that happens and before you know it we will have a stop/start game of nonsense. Things even themselves out just fine for every club, yet no one will agree to that as people have their own beef when it comes to a decision going against their team, yet rarely see the ones that go for it.

I personally hope goal line tech is where the line is drawn, so to speak.

what a surprise.

 

[lust overlord]

The game is fine as it is, though unfortunately with the introduction of goal line technology, (which I agree with), we are on that slope to the game turning on it's head. It won't be a free-flowing game if the calls for complete technological assessments of incidents come in, as it won't stop with one particular incident, it will be called to come in for every single thing that happens and before you know it we will have a stop/start game of nonsense. Things even themselves out just fine for every club, yet no one will agree to that as people have their own beef when it comes to a decision going against their team, yet rarely see the ones that go for it.

I personally hope goal line tech is where the line is drawn, so to speak.

Some fair points.
However things don't always even themselves out.A wrongly disallowed goal for instance, (or wrongly allowed),could mean the difference between staying in the league,or relegation.How would that even out if a team was relegated on the strength of a officiating error?
A happy medium regarding technology could be achieved I'm sure.

 

[Mentis]

Ever tried watching an American football game? Rhetorical question, as I'm sure you have. Maybe it doesn't bother you, and that's fine. Everyone's got the right to their own opinion.

But for my part the endless stoppages are intolerable. And the endless replays are a big part.

I live in the US now and a lot of my friends have watched Throwball all their lives. Most of them say they liked it better before all the replays. They say the game had more flow, was quicker. When you saw something happen you could process it and not be thinking - yeah, we scored! but wait, are they going to review it?

See, to me it is astounding that anyone would want the replays because of this.

The endless breaks in the game is because of how "Throwball" is played. You throw the ball, and if the player can´t catch the ball, there´s a short pause before play is restarted. Same goes if a player runs and hits the ground, a short pause before play.

This has nothing to do with decisions being reviewed. A referee might review a decision if HE (or she =p) is unsure whether he made the right call or not. This is rare through, and most games go without a single review from the referee. A coach can challenge a play twice a game (or twice per half, not sure), in which there is a quite noticable break (around 2-4 minutes) where the referee reviews a play through a screen.

If a coach challenges (reviews) the play, and the review shows a correct decision (ie coach was wrong), the team loses a timeout. This is to prevent frivolous challenges, considering timeouts are extremely important in the latter stages of the game. Not sure how that would translate to football. Loss of a substitution? Too dramatic, I think =p

 

[Pigeonho]

The game is fine as it is, though unfortunately with the introduction of goal line technology, (which I agree with), we are on that slope to the game turning on it's head. It won't be a free-flowing game if the calls for complete technological assessments of incidents come in, as it won't stop with one particular incident, it will be called to come in for every single thing that happens and before you know it we will have a stop/start game of nonsense. Things even themselves out just fine for every club, yet no one will agree to that as people have their own beef when it comes to a decision going against their team, yet rarely see the ones that go for it.

I personally hope goal line tech is where the line is drawn, so to speak.

what a surprise.

Is that really all you can reply with/to? That doesn't surprise me either to be honest.
Each to their own, you have your view and I have mine. I do wonder if you cared so much pre takeover, though I'm sure you will say you did. As I say though you have your opinion and I have mine, and the game isn't doing us too badly as it stands.

Boyblue. Been having the odd peek, other than that just sacked it off in the main.