Regrouping of singers within the stadium

[trevorriley]

its all about getting the like minded people back in the same area, the problem when you move stadium and go all seater is the singers get spread out amongst quite fans, so it dilutes the singers.

Years ago singers congregated behind the goal or in the kippax, so if you wanted to be quite, not get stuck behind somebody stood on seat or complain that you cant see because of a flag you went in a different area of the ground. There are people who complain about being stood up / shouting / stood on seats / flags waving, answer to that is dont go in an area generally behind a goal where all this goes on. Once 115 / 1114 is established, linking the singing with 110, it will be a place for like minded people wanting colour and noise to watch a game.

Lets grab it while we have a chance..

 

[Manchester33]

its their business how they watch the match,no one else's,the vast majority of the ground watch the game either in silence or in a way other that singing or creating an 'atmosphere'...your also deluded if you think we have 35,000 on the 'waiting list' ...we've seen it before...'give us our END'...you get your wish and most of them sat down.......

''Sniff.'' I said it was their business how they watch the match,they pay their money they make their choice it was an observation as we were discussing atmosphere or the lack of it.Where did i mention 35,000 on the waiting list?? I said we have plenty of people who would take their place if they stopped going,which we have. We haven't been given an END as the whole ground is ours except for the three thousand in the away end.If you mean a singing end it hasn't happened yet though the South stand is recognised as supposedly being the more vocal end.If you open your eyes you will see the whole end stands all match in there and if not it is because the stewards are making them sit but that doesn't seem to happen now.

35,000 is about what it would take to take their place cos thats about what it is.....35,000 plus sat in silence...then you've got your 'singers' and thats being generous...it really is..... [b[we have been given an END before&it failed spectacularly...eveery fucker sat down in the extra seats we were given,good luck with what your trying to do but not everyone is interested,most probably dont even know what bluemoon is[/b]...

Just to clear the first point up about one end not working in the past - it didn't work because it wasn't advertised properly by City. There were families/day trippers and even Munich fans in that part of the southstand. Obviously it isn't going to be a success if that happens, this is different because the seats are being offered to 1894, so the only people joining the section will be like minded, and if they don't want to stand a sing, they will be vastly outnumbered in that block.

Not everyone is interested in what 1894 do, or in Bluemoon. But we all want City to do well, and the players themselves have said it, having a better atmosphere at home games helps them win.

Finally, in reference to your point about us having roughly just over 10,000 singers at any home game I have to disagree with. I go to away games and sing there, but I don't sing at home because I sit in the third tier - when I move to this block next season I will sing because I'm surrounded by more singers. I reckon around 50% of people at the Etihad are the same as me - they would sing, but not on their own in a part of the ground that is quiet. If this 1894 block get songs going, both existing singing sections will be able to hear us and join in which means it will spread across the ground.

 

[Dodge]

''Sniff.'' I said it was their business how they watch the match,they pay their money they make their choice it was an observation as we were discussing atmosphere or the lack of it.Where did i mention 35,000 on the waiting list?? I said we have plenty of people who would take their place if they stopped going,which we have. We haven't been given an END as the whole ground is ours except for the three thousand in the away end.If you mean a singing end it hasn't happened yet though the South stand is recognised as supposedly being the more vocal end.If you open your eyes you will see the whole end stands all match in there and if not it is because the stewards are making them sit but that doesn't seem to happen now.

35,000 is about what it would take to take their place cos thats about what it is.....35,000 plus sat in silence...then you've got your 'singers' and thats being generous...it really is..... [b[we have been given an END before&it failed spectacularly...eveery fucker sat down in the extra seats we were given,good luck with what your trying to do but not everyone is interested,most probably dont even know what bluemoon is[/b]...

Just to clear the first point up about one end not working in the past - it didn't work because it wasn't advertised properly by City. There were families/day trippers and even Munich fans in that part of the southstand. Obviously it isn't going to be a success if that happens, this is different because the seats are being offered to 1894, so the only people joining the section will be like minded, and if they don't want to stand a sing, they will be vastly outnumbered in that block.

Not everyone is interested in what 1894 do, or in Bluemoon. But we all want City to do well, and the players themselves have said it, having a better atmosphere at home games helps them win.

Finally, in reference to your point about us having roughly just over 10,000 singers at any home game I have to disagree with. I go to away games and sing there, but I don't sing at home because I sit in the third tier - when I move to this block next season I will sing because I'm surrounded by more singers. I reckon around 50% of people at the Etihad are the same as me - they would sing, but not on their own in a part of the ground that is quiet. If this 1894 block get songs going, both existing singing sections will be able to hear us and join in which means it will spread across the ground.

Amen Brother..

 

[Joe Hart's Dandruff]

Will they allow the singing section to be so close to the away fans? Surely this could result in things being thrown etc between fans?

you mean like they already do?

Can't get any closer, it's either side!

Sorry I should have explained my point in a bit more detail. I was inferring that the 'singing section' will be in essense like our away fans but at home. If the desired effect is achieved it will be loud and rowdy. Given that the away fans section will be postioined right next to it, there would be a potential for disturbances between both sets of fans. I'm not saying this would definitely be the case, but there would be a potential. For example can you imagine what the derby would be like?

Just want to say it is a fantastic idea and I back it 100%. We need our atmosphere to improve so the crowd can be a 12th man. I'm just worried about some of the logistics.

 

[Alex - Not City Matters]

you mean like they already do?

Can't get any closer, it's either side!

Sorry I should have explained my point in a bit more detail. I was inferring that the 'singing section' will be in essense like our away fans but at home. If the desired effect is achieved it will be loud and rowdy. Given that the away fans section will be postioined right next to it, there would be a potential for disturbances between both sets of fans. I'm not saying this would definitely be the case, but there would be a potential. For example can you imagine what the derby would be like?

Just want to say it is a fantastic idea and I back it 100%. We need our atmosphere to improve so the crowd can be a 12th man. I'm just worried about some of the logistics.

And the fans who sit next to the away fans atm don't get rowdy? There's already potential for that to happen. Non starter.

 

[LevyBee76]

you mean like they already do?

Can't get any closer, it's either side!

Sorry I should have explained my point in a bit more detail. I was inferring that the 'singing section' will be in essense like our away fans but at home. If the desired effect is achieved it will be loud and rowdy. Given that the away fans section will be postioined right next to it, there would be a potential for disturbances between both sets of fans. I'm not saying this would definitely be the case, but there would be a potential. For example can you imagine what the derby would be like?

Just want to say it is a fantastic idea and I back it 100%. We need our atmosphere to improve so the crowd can be a 12th man. I'm just worried about some of the logistics.

It already gets rowdy on some games in the SE corner anyway... tbh I like it when there is a bit of tension in the air... I'm fully behind this and hope it works well next season

 

[BringBackSwales]

I think this is a laudable initiative, but on top of this more people in every part of the ground need to sing/ shout more, everyone needs to do their bit, now, irrespective of any regrouping of fans

 

[Dunne's own goal]

If you want to get a message across just post onto my group on Facebook because we have over 22,000 members and you might get a lot more interest. It would be great to get everyone singing in certain areas of the ground and to turn us into the 12th man.
If you want anymore info just PM me.

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/MCFCSupportersGrou/?fref=nf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.facebook.com/groups/MCFCSup ... u/?fref=nf</a>

Has anyone contacted you about this?

Alternatively you could/should find the post on 1894 group FB page and just share the article in your group?

 

[Dunne's own goal]

The proper seating plan has just been posted over on the stadium thread ,if someone wants to bring it over .?

I'm not sure which thread you mean but I found these?

http://stadiumdb.com/pic-projects/etihad_stadium/etihad_stadium04.jpg (had to use url as apparently the pic is too bigh)

Yeah there are the ones further down is the new seating plan showing the block numbers and the new away fan blocks

this one?

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

I'm not sure which thread you mean but I found these?

http://stadiumdb.com/pic-projects/etihad_stadium/etihad_stadium04.jpg (had to use url as apparently the pic is too bigh)

Yeah there are the ones further down is the new seating plan showing the block numbers and the new away fan blocks

this one?

Yes thanks .I'm hopeless with my block numbers .hope this makes it clearer for others.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

''Sniff.'' I said it was their business how they watch the match,they pay their money they make their choice it was an observation as we were discussing atmosphere or the lack of it.Where did i mention 35,000 on the waiting list?? I said we have plenty of people who would take their place if they stopped going,which we have. We haven't been given an END as the whole ground is ours except for the three thousand in the away end.If you mean a singing end it hasn't happened yet though the South stand is recognised as supposedly being the more vocal end.If you open your eyes you will see the whole end stands all match in there and if not it is because the stewards are making them sit but that doesn't seem to happen now.

35,000 is about what it would take to take their place cos thats about what it is.....35,000 plus sat in silence...then you've got your 'singers' and thats being generous...it really is..... [b[we have been given an END before&it failed spectacularly...eveery fucker sat down in the extra seats we were given,good luck with what your trying to do but not everyone is interested,most probably dont even know what bluemoon is[/b]...

Just to clear the first point up about one end not working in the past - it didn't work because it wasn't advertised properly by City. There were families/day trippers and even Munich fans in that part of the southstand. Obviously it isn't going to be a success if that happens, this is different because the seats are being offered to 1894, so the only people joining the section will be like minded, and if they don't want to stand a sing, they will be vastly outnumbered in that block.

Not everyone is interested in what 1894 do, or in Bluemoon. But we all want City to do well, and the players themselves have said it, having a better atmosphere at home games helps them win.

Finally, in reference to your point about us having roughly just over 10,000 singers at any home game I have to disagree with. I go to away games and sing there, but I don't sing at home because I sit in the third tier - when I move to this block next season I will sing because I'm surrounded by more singers. I reckon around 50% of people at the Etihad are the same as me - they would sing, but not on their own in a part of the ground that is quiet. If this 1894 block get songs going, both existing singing sections will be able to hear us and join in which means it will spread across the ground.

Excellent post and one I agree with every word of. If this works it won't turn us into galatasary overnight. But having one bigger voice in the ground will mean more of the occasional singers around the ground more often.

Too many times in too many big games a 'moment' is lost because two songs are going at once.

 

[cleavers]

Too many times in too many big games a 'moment' is lost because two songs are going at once.

That, and/or its fading in one section, just as another section is joining in.

Its one of the reasons "the poznan" died for me, it almost always ended up like a painful mexican wave creeping away from the southeast corner, not that it bothered me much as I didn't join in anyway, but the songs are often the same, never last long enough to get enough people joining in.

Getting people together is more likely to keep songs going.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

The poznan died at the 6-1 game. Because so many goals went in last few minutes no-one could keep up !

 

[jrb]

Just a thought.

Even if the initial response doesn't fill all the seats available in blocks 115 and 114, those seats will fill up next season when City fans inside the stadium see and hear the new singing section. Many more fans will relocate.

I'd like 1894 to ask/push the club to keep those blocks and seats for the new singing section available and set aside, even if the initial response doesn't fill them all up. Given a bit more time and into the new season, those seats will eventullay fill up.

Sing and they will come. :-)

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

''Sniff.'' I said it was their business how they watch the match,they pay their money they make their choice it was an observation as we were discussing atmosphere or the lack of it.Where did i mention 35,000 on the waiting list?? I said we have plenty of people who would take their place if they stopped going,which we have. We haven't been given an END as the whole ground is ours except for the three thousand in the away end.If you mean a singing end it hasn't happened yet though the South stand is recognised as supposedly being the more vocal end.If you open your eyes you will see the whole end stands all match in there and if not it is because the stewards are making them sit but that doesn't seem to happen now.

35,000 is about what it would take to take their place cos thats about what it is.....35,000 plus sat in silence...then you've got your 'singers' and thats being generous...it really is..... [b[we have been given an END before&it failed spectacularly...eveery fucker sat down in the extra seats we were given,good luck with what your trying to do but not everyone is interested,most probably dont even know what bluemoon is[/b]...

Just to clear the first point up about one end not working in the past - it didn't work because it wasn't advertised properly by City. There were families/day trippers and even Munich fans in that part of the southstand. Obviously it isn't going to be a success if that happens, this is different because the seats are being offered to 1894, so the only people joining the section will be like minded, and if they don't want to stand a sing, they will be vastly outnumbered in that block.

Not everyone is interested in what 1894 do, or in Bluemoon. But we all want City to do well, and the players themselves have said it, having a better atmosphere at home games helps them win.

Finally, in reference to your point about us having roughly just over 10,000 singers at any home game I have to disagree with. I go to away games and sing there, but I don't sing at home because I sit in the third tier - when I move to this block next season I will sing because I'm surrounded by more singers. I reckon around 50% of people at the Etihad are the same as me - they would sing, but not on their own in a part of the ground that is quiet. If this 1894 block get songs going, both existing singing sections will be able to hear us and join in which means it will spread across the ground.

Think you have hit the nail on the head. Least we are looking to do something about this now and tere should be more then enough people who will look to relocate to this part of the ground including me..

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I didn't go, but i think one thing the eds game proved today was that having all the singers in one place is what makes the atmosphere. Add in standing and we will get our atmosphere back.

 

[Dunne's own goal]

I didn't go, but i think one thing the eds game proved today was that having all the singers in one place is what makes the atmosphere. Add in standing and we will get our atmosphere back.

I think that's one of THE most important things people - who want to enjoy proper home game atmosphere again - need to realise.
Being with likeminded people in a same stand, singing, having a laugh. That's all you need. If YOU are surrounded with lots fans who constantly sing and you have a good time, do you really care what happens in the family stand and/or 3rd tier?

This is THE chance to get together with likeminded passionate fans.
This is YOUR opportunity to be part of proper atmosphere, in YOUR stand.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Well done for approaching the MEN. They are running it. Have you gone to Blue Tuesday yet?

 

[jrb]

1894 in the South Stand at the City V Schalke game.

Taken from the North Stand.(the white flecks are snow)

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/BjLrdQk.jpg[/bigimg]

Streamer display when the teams were coming out.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/kvheG5b.jpg[/bigimg]

More pictures of the match. mini-stadium, and South stand expansion coming up. Either tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

And yes, the roof beam/supports are massive.

Back to topic.

 

[TomDsAncs]

A singing section... Something we slated them lot for doing... Now we're doing one ourselves. Comical