Regrouping of singers within the stadium

[LoveCity]

What % of a block does 570 fans fill? Question being will the seats not taken up be given to anyone, putting the block at risk of being watered down some like the 'singing section' has been? Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

 

[jrb]

What % of a block does 570 fans fill? Question being will the seats not taken up be given to anyone, putting the block at risk of being watered down some like the 'singing section' has been? Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

That's my concern.

Guessing. Half of block 114 and the whole of block 115 equates to about 750 seats.(roughly) That's why I was really happy about the initial figures/uptake(700+) as that would have filled both blocks. But only 570 odd got back to 1894, which would equate to the whole of 115, or half of 115 and half of 114. That would mean one of two things, rightly or wrongly. The singers will only fill 115, with 114 being taken up by new fans who will be next to the away fans and probably won't sing much(not ideal), or 114 will be full, but only half of 115 will be full with the singers being split over 2 blocks. Not ideal again. We need the singers together. I appreciate it's early doors and others will follow once everything is up and running, but we could end up with a watered down and fragmented singing section to start off with. Can anyone from 1894 shed any light on the seating plans, or is that not for the public domain just yet? Perhaps another window of opportunity nearer the start of next season would be worth considering, so both blocks are definitely full of singers for the new season.

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

A quick look on the ticket site for the West Brom game, Block 116 (You cant zoom in to 115 or 114 as there not for sale) has 666 seats excluding the disabled spaces & seats next to them.

Not sure if the lay out is exactley the same in 115 but gives you an idea.

 

[blueparrot]

What % of a block does 570 fans fill? Question being will the seats not taken up be given to anyone, putting the block at risk of being watered down some like the 'singing section' has been? Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

That's my concern.

Guessing. Half of block 114 and the whole of block 115 equates to about 750 seats.(roughly) That's why I was really happy about the initial figures/uptake(700+) as that would have filled both blocks. But only 570 odd got back to 1894, which would equate to the whole of 115, or half of 115 and half of 114. That would mean one of two things, rightly or wrongly. The singers will only fill 115, with 114 being taken up by new fans who will be next to the away fans and probably won't sing much(not ideal), or 114 will be full, but only half of 115 will be full with the singers being split over 2 blocks. Not ideal again. We need the singers together. I appreciate it's early doors and others will follow once everything is up and running, but we could end up with a watered down and fragmented singing section to start off with. Can anyone from 1894 shed any light on the seating plans, or is that not for the public domain just yet? Perhaps another window of opportunity nearer the start of next season would be worth considering, so both blocks are definitely full of singers for the new season.

They were my thoughts too ,there will though be the possibility that any spaces could be taken up by those on the waiting list, I assume when they go on sale those seats will be marked as singing blocks.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

People had weeks and weeks to get involved..those that did can get access to the new seats.

The beauty of it is you get a number of singers from various blocks joining up. But enough staying where they are to ensure the same song can be carried across all blocks from 109 to 121 with just a thin tranche of away fans in the middle.

Also if someone leaves 117 to go in 115 that frees up a space in another loudish area so someone who wants to sing should still get their wish.

Best thing people can do now is just relocate to the area or as near to the area as they can when the relevant moving window comes up.

All being well it will work a treat

 

[trevorriley]

Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

Difficult for exact percentage, around 70%

For those who make a late decision on changing to block 115 and please let's have more in, it's a case of looking out for when season cards are up for renewal and grabbing what there is left, it is going to be advertised as a singing block so like minded fans should go in so not diluting.

As wearesouthstand said it frees space up in 116 / 117 / 110 for singers to populate those areas to .

Here's to a great season of singing and attending games to have a good sing song / a good time and be vocal for city no matter how the game is going.

 

[manchester blue]

Well done everyone, seems encouraging.

 

[ped]

What % of a block does 570 fans fill? Question being will the seats not taken up be given to anyone, putting the block at risk of being watered down some like the 'singing section' has been? Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

That's my concern.

Guessing. Half of block 114 and the whole of block 115 equates to about 750 seats.(roughly) That's why I was really happy about the initial figures/uptake(700+) as that would have filled both blocks. But only 570 odd got back to 1894, which would equate to the whole of 115, or half of 115 and half of 114. That would mean one of two things, rightly or wrongly. The singers will only fill 115, with 114 being taken up by new fans who will be next to the away fans and probably won't sing much(not ideal), or 114 will be full, but only half of 115 will be full with the singers being split over 2 blocks. Not ideal again. We need the singers together. I appreciate it's early doors and others will follow once everything is up and running, but we could end up with a watered down and fragmented singing section to start off with. Can anyone from 1894 shed any light on the seating plans, or is that not for the public domain just yet? Perhaps another window of opportunity nearer the start of next season would be worth considering, so both blocks are definitely full of singers for the new season.

I think the other side of that ,it will encourage those who are in that area who wouldn't normally get involved to do so

 

[blueparrot]

What % of a block does 570 fans fill? Question being will the seats not taken up be given to anyone, putting the block at risk of being watered down some like the 'singing section' has been? Hopefully there is a window to let more fans in who want to sing.

That's my concern.

Guessing. Half of block 114 and the whole of block 115 equates to about 750 seats.(roughly) That's why I was really happy about the initial figures/uptake(700+) as that would have filled both blocks. But only 570 odd got back to 1894, which would equate to the whole of 115, or half of 115 and half of 114. That would mean one of two things, rightly or wrongly. The singers will only fill 115, with 114 being taken up by new fans who will be next to the away fans and probably won't sing much(not ideal), or 114 will be full, but only half of 115 will be full with the singers being split over 2 blocks. Not ideal again. We need the singers together. I appreciate it's early doors and others will follow once everything is up and running, but we could end up with a watered down and fragmented singing section to start off with. Can anyone from 1894 shed any light on the seating plans, or is that not for the public domain just yet? Perhaps another window of opportunity nearer the start of next season would be worth considering, so both blocks are definitely full of singers for the new season.

I think the other side of that ,it will encourage those who are in that area who wouldn't normally get involved to do so

I think there are a large number of people that don't think of themselves as singers, but will join in if those around them are singing. My hope is the new blocks will keep songs going for long enough to spread around the stadium. The same way it takes a Poznan quite a while to spread on those rare occasions we get one now.

 

[dannybcity]

Well done to everyone involved in organising this. Now the new prices are out are we just waiting on the club to get in touch with us with our relocated sears?

 

[Alex - Not City Matters]

What are the exact differences to the current singing sections, as in will there be an outlined statement from the 1894 Group telling us what to expect in there? I'll be looking to relocate for Cup games, but wouldn't want to move into a replica of the South Stand as it is now.

 

[LoveCity]

What are the exact differences to the current singing sections

AFAIK (I don't represent 1894 but am moving and have followed the progress) there is no difference except this block-and-a-half has been targeted specifically at active singers who want to improve the terrible atmosphere. Problem with the singing blocks right now is they're badly watered down by people who don't sing! So I guess the difference is 114/115 will have people desperate/wanting to sing and improve the atmosphere here and now. And hopefully there will be a knock-on effect throughout the South Stand if 114/115 can sing persistently.

Second the question from the previous page - should we expect contact from the club soon about where we're sitting?

 

[city-till-i-cry]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell. Not just a quick 30 seconds because it doesn't get around the ground. Be great to hear a song going for a good 5 mins. Similar to how singing the blues did away at Leicester this season.

 

[cleavers]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell.

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

 

[Why Always Ste]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell.

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

I think it's not just the length of a song... We can potentially sing our songs for longer but we don't.
Why?
Because we no longer have the passion to cheer the team. as the success has appeared our expectations has also and we now sit back and expect a positive result.
Give us a few seasons of winning F* all and the stadium will be bouncing again, with success hungry fans singing for 90mins.

There are other factors such as over-policing/stewarding (being told to sit in 109 as an example) and many people who would sing in a public place are priced out of the stadium.... Replaced by a much more middleclass fanbase who are more reserved and less likely to scream and shout in public places.

Hopefully this singing section will be the motivation, allowing people to relax and feel comfortable in singing amongst likeminded people.
However my cynical side just thinks it might be an opportunity for the club to divide the fans even more and if the atmosphere doesn't improve, the club knock the singing section on it's head, replaced by much more expensive seats (with tourist buyers)

 

[HoJon]

Being sat/stood with 'singers' at away games encourages other people to join in. I know it does for me and my son.
So, hopefully the same will happen at next seasons home games. 570+ constant singers should gather in double that with others in that area.
Not that I want this season to end (I never do as the summer always drags) but I am really looking forward to next season. It can't come quick enough for me.
I have just one request. Can we please slow the songs down. It seems to be a race to see how quick we can sing them and they just end up being a bit ragged.

 

[Gray]

AFAIK (I don't represent 1894 but am moving and have followed the progress) there is no difference except this block-and-a-half has been targeted specifically at active singers who want to improve the terrible atmosphere. Problem with the singing blocks right now is they're badly watered down by people who don't sing! So I guess the difference is 114/115 will have people desperate/wanting to sing and improve the atmosphere here and now. And hopefully there will be a knock-on effect throughout the South Stand if 114/115 can sing persistently.

Second the question from the previous page - should we expect contact from the club soon about where we're sitting?

I personally know the lad tasked by the 1894 group to sort out the relocation of fans wishing to join this group.

I can assure you that he is meticulous and has a comprehensive file on the matter. He was delayed somewhat by the Club as the half section of block 114 was not approved until recently.

He has now allocated seating for all those who responded to the 1894 group and has done a brilliant job of placing everybody as near as possible to their preferred location.

The amount of time and effort he has put into this is astounding and I for one wish the scheme every success.

If you are one of these people do not worry if the Club renewal shows your old seat, just get in touch with the 1894 group who will let you know your new seat location.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Here here. Andy M.. The lad who voluntarily took this on. Total legend. Had lots of stress over it and we are all grateful we have the right team behind the scenes at 1894 to turn this atmosphere around.

People.asking what happens next. Anyone who asked to move to 115 with us you don't need to do anything. Thats with club and will be adminsitered on day 1 of 2nd relocation window.

 

[didsburyblu]

Have we got confirmation yet were not gonna be moved for the cup games. I've heard the plan is away fans in level 3 but heard nothing definite on that

 

[blue roo]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell.

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

How about everybody learns the second verse of Blue Moon , instead of the song dying out early or repeating the first verse. The dippers do it well with YNWA to be honest.