Religion

True it could be anything u have described and more.

On the argument of whether there is proof that god exists or not. I hear u. U can argue from both sides. My point being, something cannot come out of absolute nothing. And i have read and researched all 3 abrahamic faiths as well as dawkins work. And i made my mind up. Not stating others should or shouldn't take the same route. We have the freewill to decide for ourselves. But my point here is one should read rather than make such statements if they wanna search or know about the existence of god.
How did you come to the conclusion that a god created the universe?
 
OK im signing out ... lol not running away. Some valid posts on this thread. Im not saying i know all the answers, as said in my posts, im a student of this subject and imo i believe there is a creator and this existence didn't come out of absolute nothing. And i am more than convinced, we are here for a purpose/reason.
 
Big bang... what caused the big bang? Look at the scriptures which claim are gods words. Without disrespecting anyone's faith. There's one out there which makes this claim. Research....

Answer to your question yes.
The 'scriptures' (certainly the ones relating to the Old Testament and ultimately the King James Bible) is just a collection of 'stories' with elements of truth in them to make them appear believable. For instance 'Jesus said...'. Yes there probably was someone called Jesus who lived somewhere near Jerusalem who may have said some things, but the rest of it has been embellished over hundreds of years and appropriated as the pretence of a framework of 'rules' to control the masses.
 
It's the old "god of the gaps" argument. I don't know how the universe came about, therefore; god.
But before you can claim that, you have to prove that 1. The universe WAS actually "created" and, 2. There is a god.
 
The 'scriptures' (certainly the ones relating to the Old Testament and ultimately the King James Bible) is just a collection of 'stories' with elements of truth in them to make them appear believable. For instance 'Jesus said...'. Yes there probably was someone called Jesus who lived somewhere near Jerusalem who may have said some things, but the rest of it has been embellished over hundreds of years and appropriated as the pretence of a framework of 'rules' to control the masses.
I find it slightly disturbing how the West has always portrayed this Jesus character as a white, gentle, softly spoken English guy! He was from the Middle East! He could have looked like Saddam Hussain for all we know.
 
If we were meant to believe in a god, then we would hav no doubt. As it is, this god has been the hide-and-seek champ of the universe for getting on 2000 years now! Clearly we're not meant to know about it. If it existed, that is.
 
I have no problem with someone believing in creation however it is defined. Some choose to say it is a god others choose a different word but if that is what they believe fine.
What I do not like is this belief that some have where they must convert all others. The missionaries going to Africa, the pope sending his priests throughout Europe. Islam preaching as it does. buddhism where murder rape and torture are accepted.
Why can they not just accept others have different views?
 

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