Religion

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It is county by county as well.

It is, but the default position is dry, with counties being required to opt out of that rather then the other way round as with other States ifaik.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Tennessee

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Don't mind them. Christians are easy targets in their mind. It'll typically be a long wait before most of them mock the prophet of Islam. (pbuh).

The prophet of Islam is more historically dubious than Jesus. There's very little there to mock. Of course there's plenty of made up stories about the supposed prophet we could get stuck into.

Christianity isn't an "easy target," it's the religion that most people are familiar with in the West, the one that has had the most influence over our lives, and therefore the one that gets the most criticism and jokes told about it. But I always laugh when Christians envy the relationship that Islam has with satire and mockery, as if they hark back to a time when those who criticise Christianity could equally be ostracised, imprisoned, or even killed for doing so.

I think Dara O'Briain puts it best:

 

[vmsuhail]

This is nonsense.

You cannot be a good Christian if you do not try to convert others. A Christian dirty is to be an evangelist.

That is the trouble with it.

If it wasn’t for evangelism, and they’d mind their own business I’d have no problem with them.

Think of it the other way. He is a Christian who believes being a follower of Christ is the only way to salvation. So, being a good Christian he would want good for the others too and so shares his beliefs. A true religion should be proselytising in nature.

 

[big phil]

A pig is a filthy animal.

Yeah but bacon tastes good!

 

[Zubrman]

I work with a guy who was brought up as a Muslim. He no longer prays and all that stuff but he still wont eat pork.

It did amuse me the day I marched him over to the counter of McDonald's and got the serving person to confirm that their Sausage McMuffins were made of pork, not beef as he claimed. He'd been eating them for years!

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I work with a guy who was brought up as a Muslim. He no longer prays and all that stuff but he still wont eat pork.

Yeah, I think it's very much like if you asked a British person if they've eaten snails or insects. Even if they're not religious, there's often still an eww factor, especially if they've never had it before.

 

[lloydy]

Why did the Roman Empire not mention him? They did with every other perceived threat to their rule. And acted accordingly in a brutal fashion to put it down.

Let’s look at the supposed scenario.

The Jews had been waiting for a Messiah. Their Messiah was not a hippy love everybody, including your slavery master. Theirs was one that weirder a sword and would vanquish their enemies and deliver them from bondage.

Jesus turns up, and if we are to believe the Bible, was having gatherings of thousands of people. The loaves and the fishes where he fed five thousand. He entered Bethlehem on a donkey to show humility with thousands of people laying palm leaves before him.

Now, where the Roman soldiers in control of Bethlehem straight out of Life if Brian? Did nobody ask, who is thus ****? Thousands of people are turning out for this self proclaimed Messiah. The Messiah according to Judaism would smite the Romans and nobody thought , maybe we should report thus back to Rome. Where the Senate would decide, as they had done countless times, to sort it out?

Not one mention in any Rinan document of him. A guy who could attract thousands of people fed up with Roman rule and whose own writings foretold a warrior?

They just let it go. Never bothered their arse? Really? The Roman Empire sustained through fear and power.

The reason there is no record of a threat or action to qwell that is simple. It never happened. Any leader who could attract the numbers the Bible claims Jesus attracted, would have been seen as a potential threat and dealt with accordingly.

Al the accounts of him where nearly 70 years after he was supposed to have lived through people who weren’t there.

The Romans took any threat seriously, read up on their response to threats across their empire. But, not a peep. Not one sentence about a Jewish guy who claimed to be the Messiah and could turn out the equivelant of five legions to listen to him?

There isn’t a mention because it didn’t happen. Rome lasted centuries on the basis of control and subjugation of threat.

A guy who is supposed to be a sword wielding freedom fighter never raised an eyebrow?

If anybody believes that happened, I have five magic beans going at a competitive price.

Brilliant! Say no more

 

[lloydy]

The holy Roman empire is still alive and kicking isn't it?

On the religion side of things I have a friend who used to be friends with most of the people I know but his constant testifying and criticism of how people led their lives has caused them to say enough is enough because he's so vociferous about how damned we all are. He didn't use to be religious but he now sees Jesus in toast and is full of every conspiracy theory to prove his point that we must be stupid not to see.

He's also lost his wife because he started putting crucifixes around the house and began to act like a stern disciplinarian, it wont be long before I have to let him go because it gets to be very very hard work although I really do want to be there for him.

He's a fucked up loon!

 

[Henkeman]

No, but it's still a reason why it gets more scrutiny that other historical events in popular culture. No doubt academic historians treat Jesus exactly the same as any other claimed historical figure.

Historians, yes. Which is why it's so fascinating.

 

[Magicpole]

You do realise that a couple of hundred years after Jesus' death, there were Roman emperors who converted to Christianity?

You do realise that a couple of hundred years after Jesus' death, there were Roman emperors who converted to Christianity?

I am aware of that. As time passes and more people were duped it eventually made its way to the Emperors themselves and that is why I had to endure being sent to mass as a child every bastard fucking Sunday.

It’s personal for me. :)