goater555
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Here's an idea..
Let's flood this country with a bunch of brainwashed middle easten soldiers.
Let's flood this country with a bunch of brainwashed middle easten soldiers.
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BlueHammer85
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Does ANYONE know what he's going on about???.......
Utter moron. I’m sorry. But one of the most tedious posters I’ve ever seen on my 7+ years on here. Avoids difficult questions and deflects his answers about something completely different before waffling on about art and spiritual guidance and pretty much any words he can think of, complete mumbo jumbo and I’m surprised many are trying to have a rational debate with him - maybe I’m wrong and somewhere amongst his waffle he has a point, probably just a WUM.
Would you wan to try something? A question. When you have a fearful thought might this be expressed through the body in some way, might it bring a certain kind of experience? The same with anger, sadness, happiness. Isn't this what happens with actors that attempt convey emotions - not just by saying I am this or that but through the way the body, moves, maybe tone of voice, posture, how they relate with another actor etc etc?Utter moron. I’m sorry. But one of the most tedious posters I’ve ever seen on my 7+ years on here. Avoids difficult questions and deflects his answers about something completely different before waffling on about art and spiritual guidance and pretty much any words he can think of, complete mumbo jumbo and I’m surprised many are trying to have a rational debate with him - maybe I’m wrong and somewhere amongst his waffle he has a point, probably just a WUM.
So what if we learn to unwitting act upon arrogant thoughts - would this create a range of experience? What if suggested that it is possible to become aware of arrogance and let go of it and so be able to know experiences and ways of acting in life that are beyond this. And you don't have to agree with this but what if this lead to a sense of feeling grounded in which trouble begin to melt away - no need to fix them or try to escape them. So what if, for example, someone has so much pain from their troubles that they reached out for the oxycontin and then slowly became addicted to the fix it gave? Might his then free them? To take another example - what if someone was troubled by the idea that immigrants were attacking their englishness - how might they then choose to act? What if it is more the case that what they think of as englishness is actually a way of arrogance that is keeping their sense of troubledness nailed in place - nothing to do with immigrants. How might they then act?
Beyond that then yes I haver found the process of art to be something similar. You may find it boring, fair enough. But one thing I really enjoy is that in letting go of arrogance I feel a rootedness, (like a solidity that can be fluid) and when there might be storminess or chaos around I can just watch it, maybe move with it but it won't unbalance me. I don't know what will happen in the world but with what is going on with the likes of Trump and America and even politics in europe - i'd rather be able to feel this rootedness than not. Is practical this way.
And maybe this is what is being suggested - like this is a problem that cannot be solved by the intellect.
So no one dogma/doctrine could ever truly be better than another. So maybe just drop it and find
a way to live and share and play in a way beyond this.. a way that some might call of 'the heart.
Maybe this the joining that John was speaking of, beyond beliefs in this or that?'
why would we do that,suppress the human condition, it is only a problem we haven't solved yet
your method does not solve anything only your own well being(which is fine and dandy)
Thanks. I'm not sure that I'm talking about suppressing the human condition. I don't know if this something you have known but for me I might havewhy would we do that,suppress the human condition, it is only a problem we haven't solved yet
your method does not solve anything only your own well being(which is fine and dandy)
problems within and then try to look outside for a fix - food, beer, drugs, books whatever. Or I might have problems within and try to fix them outside - this
friend has cancer, this feels problematic inside - If I find a a way to fix them then my problems will go away. And these fixes might help me forget my problems
but at best only for a while - so what it feels like is learning to let go of problems within, rather than trying to fix/solve them. Then I can be with life in a different way.
And here's something to consider. Maybe humanity as a whole has been walking around in a relatively unbalanced but this has come to be seen as 'normal.' But then
some folk can't deal with that so well and hit the ground hard and maybe quite often. At this point they might choose to question whether there is another way
that is even perhaps beyond the relatively unbalanced. Now, if they succeed in even a little bit in this way it might look and sound quite different from that which is
considered 'normal' and might even be called 'weird.' And folk that have managed not to have fallen hard might look at those and say 'well, I am better them because
I haven't fallen - and so what they have to say has no value, is nonsense and should be labelled (insert one of many terms that have been used on this thread.) Beyond that
what if I had become so emotionally unbalanced with anger one night that I had kick the living duck out of them. I didn't but I woke up the next morning I decided that this
wasn't how I wanted to live. So went to see a martial arts teacher and, in short, discovered through 'grappling' practices that even what I had thought of normal balance wasn't so very balanced at all and that, in a way, it was the arrogance within that I was falling over. So that brought about change - and now it would seem for many on here I am weird. And that's ok. Just maybe I was curious whether there are other people on here that would care to go through weirdness so as to open to new 'normal that is balanced and harmonious.
Magicpole
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Cool. And how do you know what is true or not?
Its kind of curious. For me the church that you speak of is where someone might stand at the front of a church and insist that their understand of truth
is better than the Truth that anyone can come to know within them of their own volition. The only way that this can possibly work is to find some
kind of way to preach fear as the truth. Otherwise one might open to the Love within the Heart and say 'sorry, you may have this title or that, this education or that , your opinions might be popular for sure...but still your words do not resonate with the Truth of the Heart that I have known for sure.'
And so, in a way, what I find in your preaching is your own version of fear that just doesn't speak to this heart. But you might have a few here that might buy into your religion (though for marketing reasons probably best give it another name right?)
Beyond this, here's a question. Would it be ok for 'you,' if there could be perhaps one small thread, in which people were free to write in a way that might not fit into 'your' understanding (thinking that might be outside the 'box' that you currently identify with) without people acting on a compulsive need to jump all over them - calling them cunts, mentally ill, deluded, quacks etc as if somehow this makes them higher, more informed, more righteous people. At the moment the answer seems like 'no.' lmao
The earth travels around the sun. True. The earth is not flat. True. We are not the centre of the universe. True. The Israelites did not wander the desert for 40 years. True. And that many more that I would need to take a month to list the falsehoods contained in all the holy books that any creator would have known.
Truth is only subjective to believers when it contradicts their beliefs.
I will flip this. You show me how any of the woo woo you spout is true.
Like all who believe you speak in metaphors, feelings, inner peace, spiritual shit. They talk of god talkibgvto tgem. Guiding them. Answering prayers. When asked to prove it they say you can’t orove it didn’t.
On that basis my nightly threesone with Emily Blunt and Nicole Kidman is a fact.
Why would any omnipotent being be so elusive and so varied across the planet?
Is it
A) he’s a right scamp
Or
B) he is man made created by men that reflected their interpretation of what god was? Giving rise to over 10,000 variations on the same theme.
I am a guy who likes evidence. Why no evidence? I can provide the evidence for real stuff. Why can’t you for this mysterious being that seems to exist only in books and easily self deluded minds?
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The sun travels around us. True. The earth is not flat. True. We are not the centre of the universe. True. The Israelites did not wander the desert for 40 years. True. And that many more that I would need to take a month to list the falsehoods contained in all the holy books that any creator would have known.
Truth is only subjective to believers when it contradicts their beliefs.
I will flip this. You show me how any of the woo woo you spout is true.
Like all who believe you speak in metaphors, feelings, inner peace, spiritual shit. They talk of god talkibgvto tgem. Guiding them. Answering prayers. When asked to prove it they say you can’t orove it didn’t.
On that basis my nightly threesone with Emily Blunt and Nicole Kidman is a fact.
Why would any omnipotent being be so elusive and so varied across the planet?
Is it
A) he’s a right scamp
Or
B) he is man made created by men that reflected their interpretation of what god was? Giving rise to over 10,000 variations on the same theme.
I am a guy who likes evidence. Why no evidence? I can provide the evidence for real stuff. Why can’t you for this mysterious being that seems to exist only in books and easily self deluded minds?
i hope the sun doesn't go round us mate :-)
Magicpole
Well-Known Member
i hope the sun doesn't go round us mate :-)
Even I get mixed up trying to keep up. :)
crazyg
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Utter moron. I’m sorry. But one of the most tedious posters I’ve ever seen on my 7+ years on here. Avoids difficult questions and deflects his answers about something completely different before waffling on about art and spiritual guidance and pretty much any words he can think of, complete mumbo jumbo and I’m surprised many are trying to have a rational debate with him - maybe I’m wrong and somewhere amongst his waffle he has a point, probably just a WUM.
Point proved m'lud.Would you wan to try something? A question. When you have a fearful thought might this be expressed through the body in some way, might it bring a certain kind of experience? The same with anger, sadness, happiness. Isn't this what happens with actors that attempt convey emotions - not just by saying I am this or that but through the way the body, moves, maybe tone of voice, posture, how they relate with another actor etc etc?
So what if we learn to unwitting act upon arrogant thoughts - would this create a range of experience? What if suggested that it is possible to become aware of arrogance and let go of it and so be able to know experiences and ways of acting in life that are beyond this. And you don't have to agree with this but what if this lead to a sense of feeling grounded in which trouble begin to melt away - no need to fix them or try to escape them. So what if, for example, someone has so much pain from their troubles that they reached out for the oxycontin and then slowly became addicted to the fix it gave? Might his then free them? To take another example - what if someone was troubled by the idea that immigrants were attacking their englishness - how might they then choose to act? What if it is more the case that what they think of as englishness is actually a way of arrogance that is keeping their sense of troubledness nailed in place - nothing to do with immigrants. How might they then act?
Beyond that then yes I haver found the process of art to be something similar. You may find it boring, fair enough. But one thing I really enjoy is that in letting go of arrogance I feel a rootedness, (like a solidity that can be fluid) and when there might be storminess or chaos around I can just watch it, maybe move with it but it won't unbalance me. I don't know what will happen in the world but with what is going on with the likes of Trump and America and even politics in europe - i'd rather be able to feel this rootedness than not. Is practical this way.
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lust overlord
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Utter moron. I’m sorry. But one of the most tedious posters I’ve ever seen on my 7+ years on here. Avoids difficult questions and deflects his answers about something completely different before waffling on about art and spiritual guidance and pretty much any words he can think of, complete mumbo jumbo and I’m surprised many are trying to have a rational debate with him - maybe I’m wrong and somewhere amongst his waffle he has a point, probably just a WUM.
So don't read his posts if you find them so frustrating,calling him a moron is well out of order.
A definition of the word moron is somebody that doesn't think.His posts,enigmatic though they are don't suggest he's unthinking.
He has is own philosophy and way of looking at life that suits him.
Leave him too it if you don't agree.
Simple.