Religion

journolud said:
Yes yes, I know who he was. Just hoping he didn't force people to listen to his views, would have been quite ironic what with all these religious types turning up at his door trying to make him believe in God.
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Do you think he's gone to heaven? I hope so because fire and brimstones appear to be a tad too harsh just for questioning a doctrine. "Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire” Matthew 25:41

It's not like Christopher killed anyone .. but then again if your a God you get to do whatever you want without fear of reprisal as your the boss man. (Do as I say not as I do)

What a fine example he set issuing to earth 10 commandments on living a good life, then in the blink of an eye fooking off on a homicidal kill spree. A full planet drowned without trial for not conforming to his moral standards.

Noah and the "Lucky 7" must have been beyond law abiding citizens to pull off that Wonker ticket.
Fair fooks and at least someone got saved.
 
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Hard to believe he’d be in Heaven, isn’t it? After all, wasn’t it God who gave Hitch cancer? You know, just like the millions of innocent kids he kills every year.

The human condition is fragile. The more fragile the better for those espousing the illusion of Godliness.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Do you think he's gone to heaven? I hope so because fire and brimstones appear to be a tad too harsh just for questioning a doctrine. "Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire” Matthew 25:41

It's not like Christopher killed anyone .. but then again if your God you get to do what you want without without any fear of reprisal as he's the boss.

What a fine example he set by issuing to earth 10 commandments on living a good life, then in the blink of an eye fooking of on a homicidal killing spree. A full planet drowned without trial just for not conforming to his moral standards.

Noah and the "Lucky 7" must have been beyond law abiding citizens to pull off that Wonker ticket.
Fair fooks and at least someone got saved.
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I’m doubtful that heaven exists but if it comforts you to believe he is there…
 
If some religious person comes to.your door selling the big J, no **** bats an eye. Imagine if I started going door to door trying to deconvert?

Eh, hello, if you believe in god, I am here to save you from all that pish, with humanity, logic, reason, facts, wonder, recognising we are all incredible beings and plenty of fucking laughs. Hows about it?

People would literally lose their tiny minds.
 
Magicpole said:
If some religious person comes to.your door selling the big J, no **** bats an eye. Imagine if I started going door to door trying to deconvert?

Eh, hello, if you believe in god, I am here to save you from all that pish, with humanity, logic, reason, facts, wonder, recognising we are all incredible beings and plenty of fucking laughs. Hows about it?

People would literally lose their tiny minds.
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Literally making stuff up to prove your point. Or not
 
vmsuhail said:
If God intervenes on every bad action, then there wouldn't be any free-will, guilt, repentence etc.

Qur'an 16:61 "And if God were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term."
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Why not just not hurt people at all
Any decent god would prevent wrongdoing in the first place
All other scenarios make it a bad god
God job he ain’t real because I would have something to say to the evil shit
 
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I'm not smart enough to believe in God, I wish I was. Neither got the epistemic confidence to believe there is no god. I wish I did. I think that about equals itself out.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Reminds me of Hitchens when he said that he was more than happy for believers to have their toys and to play with them at home and hug them and share them with others who could come round to play with the toys.

"That's absolutely fine .. but they are not to make me play with these toys. I will not play with the toys"

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could watch his videos over and over, loved him
 
Phil1 said:
And that's it in a nutshell. It brings comfort to people, which should be lauded as a positive. Its a shame its been hijacked by lunatics and used to wage all kinds of shit on the world.
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Maybe organised religion is the problem.
Your own beliefs determine your actions , perhaps.
Other peoples interpretations of a belief system becomes dogma and a power trip.

Imagine no religion. It’s easy if you try.
 
tonea2003 said:
Why not just not hurt people at all
Any decent god would prevent wrongdoing in the first place
All other scenarios make it a bad god
God job he ain’t real because I would have something to say to the evil shit
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Can you elaborate how that is possible without removing any of the traits that make us human ?
 
urban genie said:
So if moses said that and god is free of the need of praise and worship why do two of the abrahamic religions insit they need to convert people to their faith.

In esscence both christianity and Islam go against gods wishes to force religious worship upon people, you can tell people about the god which both faiths follow, but no person, family, or country should be made to follow this celestials rule or wants.

Spread th word and those that choose to worship it are subject to his smiting, those not interested should be free to do what they do in their own ways without any religious pressure upon them or judgement.
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This thread was bumped seeing the injustice in Ukraine. We are forced to content that 'Life is unfair', yet our innate nature longs for justice. Similarly, we long for eternity, a better and healthy life, a meaning for life beyond the material and a conscience that refuses to accept that the universe didn't come on its own. God gave religion not for Him, but for our own contentment.

God didn't simply create us and left us in the dark about Him. Christianity and Islam proselytize because they believe the knowledge of the Divine will help the people. Wouldn't you share something that which you know will benefit others ?

From God's perspective, He created human beings so that He can show His mercy.
Qur'an 11:119 "Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them."
Being the Creator, God has full authority to dictate the terms in this relationship. Of course, there is no compulsion in religion (Qur'an 2:256) and compulsion doesn't work either as faith has to come from within to be meaningful.
 
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vmsuhail said:
This thread was bumped seeing the injustice in Ukraine. We are forced to content that 'Life is unfair', yet our innate nature longs for justice. Similarly, we long for eternity, a better and healthy life, a meaning for life beyond the material and a conscience that refuses to accept that the universe didn't come on its own. God gave religion not for Him, but for our own contentment.

God didn't simply create us and left us in the dark about Him. Christianity and Islam proselytize because they believe the knowledge of the Divine will help the people. Wouldn't you share something that which you know will benefit others ? Being the Creator, God has full authority to dictate the terms in this relationship. Of course, there is no compulsion in religion (Qur'an 2:256) and compulsion doesn't work either as faith has to come from within to be meaningful.

From God's perspective, He created human beings so that He can show His mercy.
Qur'an 11:119 "Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them."
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What a pile of shite.
 
vmsuhail said:
This thread was bumped seeing the injustice in Ukraine. We are forced to content that 'Life is unfair', yet our innate nature longs for justice. Similarly, we long for eternity, a better and healthy life, a meaning for life beyond the material and a conscience that refuses to accept that the universe didn't come on its own. God gave religion not for Him, but for our own contentment.

God didn't simply create us and left us in the dark about Him. Christianity and Islam proselytize because they believe the knowledge of the Divine will help the people. Wouldn't you share something that which you know will benefit others ?

From God's perspective, He created human beings so that He can show His mercy.
Qur'an 11:119 "Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them."
Being the Creator, God has full authority to dictate the terms in this relationship. Of course, there is no compulsion in religion (Qur'an 2:256) and compulsion doesn't work either as faith has to come from within to be meaningful.
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So only free will when the dominant party deicdes it.

As I said celstial destic abuse, carried out by those heads of religion who are weak and wicked people running religous cults normally for thier benefit not their followers.
 
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