Return of Supporters

[peter.evans]

Because when tickets are restricted for games loyalty points have always been used so I disagree especially that LC would in any way be the same as FA cup final and one should exclude the other if successful. Although I agree regarding transport costs. This would have made a nice gesture.

All fans are equal but some fans are more equal than others than others !

 

[liamctid]

We had a similar conversation. I think once the ‘car spaces’ are gone you will have to book coach or train to buy a ticket. Strictly speaking you aren’t supposed to share a car with anyone outside your household or support bubble so that might be part of the thinking.

I think that might be the case too but wanted to check in case there was any knowledge anywhere on it. As you might imagine, I'd rather split petrol between 2/3 of us instead of paying £80 for the train.

 

[Vic]

I assume the train from Piccadilly will go straight to Wembley (Central?) rather than to Piccadilly then everyone jump on the tube across to the ground

Any mention of further stops for these trains pal? Macc/ Stockport ?

I didn't see any mention of where it was stopping, but if I was chartering the train, it would pick up at Piccadilly go via New St/Wycombe and drop off at Wembley Stadium, then there is no need to trek across London?

The 1020 and 1155 trains from Picc to Euston in RealTime trains call at Stockport, Wilmslow, and Crewe - but only the first calls at Watford Junction. But how can they be Covid-secure, when 375 passengers on each is more than half the number of seats, in an enclosed space for 2-3 hours?

Avanti can't go to Wembley Stadium, but I don't know any reason why they could not stop at Wembley Central.

 

[HibbertStreetKid]

Will the trains defo be alcohol free? Dont mind jumping through all the hoops they have put in place but if it means no alcohol there and back that kills it for me.

 

[M18CTID]

Will the trains defo be alcohol free? Dont mind jumping through all the hoops they have put in place but if it means no alcohol there and back that kills it for me.

My guess is that they will be dry but that's only a guess so I could well be wrong on that.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Will the trains defo be alcohol free? Dont mind jumping through all the hoops they have put in place but if it means no alcohol there and back that kills it for me.

Where there's a will, there's a way. Get some 7UP 500ml bottles, get rid of that shite and fill with lovely ale.

 

[staffsblue]

The 1020 and 1155 trains from Picc to Euston in RealTime trains call at Stockport, Wilmslow, and Crewe - but only the first calls at Watford Junction. But how can they be Covid-secure, when 375 passengers on each is more than half the number of seats, in an enclosed space for 2-3 hours?

Avanti can't go to Wembley Stadium, but I don't know any reason why they could not stop at Wembley Central.

There's a very good reason the trains can't stop at Wembley Central, platform length! It's an H&S requirement for trains with automatic doors to be fully platformed, unless there's a safe way of working with SDO (selective door operation). In the case of the Avanti fleet, SDO can only be used at locations where fixed infrastructure (called balises) are installed. Balises are basically bits of lineside kit that send a message to the train's software to keep certain doors locked when the rest of the doors are released.
On the Avanti Network, they are only installed at Haymarket (Edinburgh), Lichfield Trent Valley and Manchester Piccadilly platforms 13 and 14 for diverted services.

 

[staffsblue]

The 1020 and 1155 trains from Picc to Euston in RealTime trains call at Stockport, Wilmslow, and Crewe - but only the first calls at Watford Junction. But how can they be Covid-secure, when 375 passengers on each is more than half the number of seats, in an enclosed space for 2-3 hours?

Avanti can't go to Wembley Stadium, but I don't know any reason why they could not stop at Wembley Central.

And Real Time Trains is incorrect. The services have been "bid" to Network Rail but not yet "offered". When the offer occurs the schedules in all downstream systems will be updated.

 

[HibbertStreetKid]

Just spoke to supporter services they have been assured by manchester city council extra lateral flow tests will be available for blues sat evening. Also, bars will be open for refreshments in the stadium. Taking langleyblues tips on board think im going to go for it.

 

[liamctid]

Just spoke to supporter services they have been assured by manchester city council extra lateral flow tests will be available for blues sat evening. Also, bars will be open for refreshments in the stadium. Taking langleyblues tips on board think im going to go for it.

By refreshments I hope you mean alcohol?

 

[Tonster]

Just spoke to supporter services they have been assured by manchester city council extra lateral flow tests will be available for blues sat evening. Also, bars will be open for refreshments in the stadium. Taking langleyblues tips on board think im going to go for it.

It’s going to need more than Manchester City council to be involved. Those postcodes who can order tickets stretch some distance from Manchester.

 

[Maccblue]

Just spoke to supporter services they have been assured by manchester city council extra lateral flow tests will be available for blues sat evening. Also, bars will be open for refreshments in the stadium. Taking langleyblues tips on board think im going to go for it.

Is this just in Manchester though for the lateral flow tests ? lots of the allowed postcodes that can apply don’t begin with M?
They’ve included all these postcodes in the Lottery but the nitty gritty mundane shite is all centred around living in Manchester
Coaches from ? Trains From ? Tests at ?
Can’t decide what to do !!!
Decisions decisions!!!

 

[HibbertStreetKid]

Dont know Macc thats all he said cos i asked if we cant get a test within 24 hours of the match will we get a refund and he just kept saying they have been assured tests will be available and when they have details they will relay them to supporters. Also said anyone getting a positive test and therefore unable to travel will get a full refund.

 

[kev20971]

There's a very good reason the trains can't stop at Wembley Central, platform length! It's an H&S requirement for trains with automatic doors to be fully platformed, unless there's a safe way of working with SDO (selective door operation). In the case of the Avanti fleet, SDO can only be used at locations where fixed infrastructure (called balises) are installed. Balises are basically bits of lineside kit that send a message to the train's software to keep certain doors locked when the rest of the doors are released.
On the Avanti Network, they are only installed at Haymarket (Edinburgh), Lichfield Trent Valley and Manchester Piccadilly platforms 13 and 14 for diverted services.

Bow to your knowledge about the technology, (away from the covid pandemic for a minute).
I remember hearing that Wembley Central was modernised in the 90s with shorter platforms and the long distance InterCity trains couldn't stop no more .
Well that was some forward thinking wasn't it !
With the National Stadium only a 5/10 min walk away from a station with access to most of the towns & cities in the West Midlands and North West of England, and they make so that the trains from these places can't stop there !

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

Will HS2 be Wembley friendly.

Piccadilly to Euston in 12 minutes but then four and a half hours from Euston to Wembley.

 

[staffsblue]

Bow to your knowledge about the technology, (away from the covid pandemic for a minute).
I remember hearing that Wembley Central was modernised in the 90s with shorter platforms and the long distance InterCity trains couldn't stop no more .
Well that was some forward thinking wasn't it !
With the National Stadium only a 5/10 min walk away from a station with access to most of the towns & cities in the West Midlands and North West of England, and they make so that the trains from these places can't stop there !

Totally agree, but a lot of stuff that happens on the railway makes no sense whatsoever. Glad I'm taking early retirement in just over a month so the only time I'll have to think about trains is using my free passes to go to home and away matches !!!

 

[staffsblue]

Will HS2 be Wembley friendly.

Piccadilly to Euston in 12 minutes but then four and a half hours from Euston to Wembley.

Old Oak Common HS2 station will be about 2 miles walk from Wembley. Hopefully TfL will provide some sort of integrated public transport between the 2 locations.

 

[lancs blue]

Is this just in Manchester though for the lateral flow tests ? lots of the allowed postcodes that can apply don’t begin with M?
They’ve included all these postcodes in the Lottery but the nitty gritty mundane shite is all centred around living in Manchester
Coaches from ? Trains From ? Tests at ?
Can’t decide what to do !!!
Decisions decisions!!!

Similar issue for me, the test centres within easy reach close at 3-45pm on Saturday, I haven't seen any official clarification of whether "within 24 hours" is to be taken literally or would a test earlier on Saturday be ok?

 

[blue44]

Will HS2 be Wembley friendly.

Piccadilly to Euston in 12 minutes but then four and a half hours from Euston to Wembley.

dont be daft

euston to wembley about 15 -20 mins

unless you get on the wrong tube and end up at hammersmith or summert daft like we do freqently.

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

dont be daft

euston to wembley about 15 -20 mins

unless you get on the wrong tube and end up at hammersmith or summert daft like we do freqently.

No excuses for that. We’ve been there so many times recently you should be able to get there with your eyes closed ;-)