Never proved he had anything to do with itSWP's back said:Yeah killing his nephews was very brave.garymj said:I watched this all day today thought it was very good very well done, tell you what, he didn't mind a ruck did he, right in the thick of it before they got him, very brave King.
Means and motive and jut because he didn't weild the pillow doesn't make him innocent as it didn't make Henry II innocent.blue underpants said:Never proved he had anything to do with itSWP's back said:Yeah killing his nephews was very brave.garymj said:I watched this all day today thought it was very good very well done, tell you what, he didn't mind a ruck did he, right in the thick of it before they got him, very brave King.
The Duke of Buckingham had more to gain with their death and had access to the Tower, Sir James Tyrell confessed to murdering them just before he was executed for treason, he was in league with both Buckingham and Richard 3rd but was in debt to Buckingham
This and only thisMike N said:The whole idea of 'Kings and Queens' should have been left in the middle ages. The fact that we still have one is a complete joke.
And have an elected head of state which would be someone of the ilk Tony Blair or Simon Cowell. Do me a favour.Mike N said:The whole idea of 'Kings and Queens' should have been left in the middle ages. The fact that we still have one is a complete joke.
Killing his nephews , if he did, makes him a c***t, but leading his men into battle, and fighting in the thick of it, while Henry tudor sat on a hill watching, makes him a brave king in my book.SWP's back said:Yeah killing his nephews was very brave.garymj said:I watched this all day today thought it was very good very well done, tell you what, he didn't mind a ruck did he, right in the thick of it before they got him, very brave King.
Got to agree, I've enjoyed watching the programmes they've shown since Richard has been discovered. The two subjects I hated at school, science and history are now the only topics I'll watch on TV (other than Top Gear!) and wish I'd had listened more at school to both topics.Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:an important part of our history and heritage. Good that he's been properly buried
Good points as usual SWP, however Richard only intercepted Edward on his way to be crowned, his younger Brother Richard of Shrewsbury was taken from his Mother Elizabeth Woodville who was seeking sanctuary with him in Westminster Cathedral, the man who took him was the Duke of Buckingham!SWP's back said:Means and motive and jut because he didn't weild the pillow doesn't make him innocent as it didn't make Henry II innocent.blue underpants said:Never proved he had anything to do with itSWP's back said:Yeah killing his nephews was very brave.
The Duke of Buckingham had more to gain with their death and had access to the Tower, Sir James Tyrell confessed to murdering them just before he was executed for treason, he was in league with both Buckingham and Richard 3rd but was in debt to Buckingham
And it was Richard, no one else that intercepted them on the way to be crowned and placed them in the tower. All of this revisionism is down to the Richard III society. He's guilty as sin whoever actually did for them and of course nothing was ever proved. It was 500 years ago.
It's never been proved that OJ did anything and that was present day, DNA testing and glove fitting and all.