Rishi Sunak

[Mon Autre]

Might not go down well on here but as a British Asian man I feel ashamed and betrayed that a man like rishi can claim to represent me, other immigrants and working class people through his vicious and calculated right wing politics that keeps us all fighting for scraps and fighting against each other. The only way his race is at all relevant is so the Tories can use him as a token to say look at us were not racist which is a laughable concept in reality as their politics are inherently racist.

Put this better than I could.

 

[blueparrot]

Rishi Sunak in introducing the furlough scheme, which was specifically his idea, gave out the biggest government handout in history (I think?)

The government paid 80% of people’s wages for months so they didn’t go to the wall under lockdown.

I wouldn’t class him as being someone who’s viscous and right wing.

He’s far less neoliberal than Osbourne and he’s far less culturally conservative than many others.

The Tories have a problem with racism, I think the fact the members didn’t put him in place instead of Truss is a problem but they’re not inherently racist, they’ve just had the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history twice in a row.

Don't think it was his idea, I'm sure other countries announced one first. I think any government and any chancellor would have had no option but to introduce one.

 

[BobKowalski]

Rishi Sunak in introducing the furlough scheme, which was specifically his idea, gave out the biggest government handout in history (I think?)

The government paid 80% of people’s wages for months so they didn’t go to the wall under lockdown.

I wouldn’t class him as being someone who’s viscous and right wing.

He’s far less neoliberal than Osbourne and he’s far less culturally conservative than many others.

The Tories have a problem with racism, I think the fact the members didn’t put him in place instead of Truss is a problem but they’re not inherently racist, they’ve just had the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history twice in a row.

I like to think countries all learnt from each other…

‘Boris Johnson’s government unveiled on Thursday (24 September) a massive new financial support package for businesses and employees, modelled on Germany’s ‘Kurzarbeit’ scheme, as the UK economy braces for six months of hardship from the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak announced the new rescue measures as part of a ‘Winter Recovery Plan’ for the UK economy and workers to weather the effects of the pandemic.’ @euract.

 

[Octavian]

I like to think countries all learnt from each other…

‘Boris Johnson’s government unveiled on Thursday (24 September) a massive new financial support package for businesses and employees, modelled on Germany’s ‘Kurzarbeit’ scheme, as the UK economy braces for six months of hardship from the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak announced the new rescue measures as part of a ‘Winter Recovery Plan’ for the UK economy and workers to weather the effects of the pandemic.’ @euract.

He still did it and I meant it was his idea in Cabinet, whether he got it from elsewhere he pushed it here.

Not exactly “viscous”.

 

[mexico1970]

He still did it and I meant it was his idea in Cabinet, whether he got it from elsewhere he pushed it here.

Not exactly “viscous”.

ANY Tory will get the treatment neither race or sex or religion will stop it, the state of politics in this country is embarrassing.

 

[SWP's back]

Don't think it was his idea, I'm sure other countries announced one first. I think any government and any chancellor would have had no option but to introduce one.

It was above and beyond what Labour were calling for. But as this is Bluemoon, I guess there’s no point apportioning credit where it’s due.

Let’s just call him a rich **** and be done with it. That’s the level of political discourse around here.

 

[bluenova]

Rishi Sunak in introducing the furlough scheme, which was specifically his idea, gave out the biggest government handout in history (I think?)

The government paid 80% of people’s wages for months so they didn’t go to the wall under lockdown.

I wouldn’t class him as being someone who’s viscous and right wing.

He’s far less neoliberal than Osbourne and he’s far less culturally conservative than many others.

The Tories have a problem with racism, I think the fact the members didn’t put him in place instead of Truss is a problem but they’re not inherently racist, they’ve just had the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history twice in a row.

That's an amazing rewrite of history.

There were already similar schemes in a number of countries across Europe and the rest of the world, and once the scheme was introduced in this country there was a huge fuss about it not including self-employed people - something that other European schemes did.

Far from being original, or his idea, most insider comments from other ministers have suggested he was more reluctant to spend than other members of the cabinet.

His record so far has been shaped by Boris being arguably the most populist PM the UK has seen, but whenever he's been given a chance to put forward his own views, he's made it clear that he's on the economic right of the Tories. It's interesting that you mention Osborne, because he's been all over the news recently pushing Sunak.

 

[Octavian]

Don't think it was his idea, I'm sure other countries announced one first. I think any government and any chancellor would have had no option but to introduce one.

I get that he’s a Tory and they’re not popular on this website (for good reason), but I feel many are blinkered against all of them and if one does something good it’s “well anyone would have done that”.

Labour were, if I remember correctly, calling for payments to individuals and businesses to help during the pandemic, they didn’t suggest paying the majority of the country 80% of their wages.

Starmer and Burnham were both congratulating Sunak at the time on what was a good policy.

He does deserve credit, despite being a Tory.

 

[bluenova]

It was above and beyond what Labour were calling for. But as this is Bluemoon, I guess there’s no point apportioning credit where it’s due.

Let’s just call him a rich **** and be done with it. That’s the level of political discourse around here.

That's cheap. People have pointed out that Sunak was following other countries lead when he introduced furlough, it wasn't any more generous than other comparable countries, and as I've explained, he was a voice in cabinet arguing for less, not more.

My argument is that Boris could take more credit for the generosity of the schemes, so hardly an anti-Tory argument.

 

[Octavian]

That's an amazing rewrite of history.

There were already similar schemes in a number of countries across Europe and the rest of the world, and once the scheme was introduced in this country there was a huge fuss about it not including self-employed people - something that other European schemes did.

Far from being original, or his idea, most insider comments from other ministers have suggested he was more reluctant to spend than other members of the cabinet.

His record so far has been shaped by Boris being arguably the most populist PM the UK has seen, but whenever he's been given a chance to put forward his own views, he's made it clear that he's on the economic right of the Tories. It's interesting that you mention Osborne, because he's been all over the news recently pushing Sunak.

Packages were given elsewhere and he obviously got ideas from them but Sunak put together the package for Britain and delivered it in Britain.

It was him that put it together, announced it, and owned it.

And so what if Osbourne has backed him? We have them both being Chancellor to see how they’ve done and what their policies have been.

Osbourne pushed austerity in crisis, Sunak didn’t, he gave handouts.