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Robbie to Barca done deal apparently ??
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Miami Weiss
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& he is not going anywhere.
Didsbury Dave
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Miami Weiss said:& he is not going anywhere.
You forgot to add "End of". or maybe "FFS"
That's what Tubthumpers usually sign off with.
sam221985
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Pigeonho said:sam221985 said:I really don't think them lot have anything to do with it, there's is no geographical quota on how many 'great' clubs can come from one area.
I don't think we will ever be Barca/Real/Rags, but I don't particularly care about that. City can win in the next ten years as many as three or four premier league titles and a couple of champions leagues - I actually think that's realistic. I just want us to win things and be respected for winning things. Fuck being some kind of self-styled 'super-club' for those in 'new football markets' who don't know much about the game, to wank over and buy the lampshade and quilt combo - who gives a fuck about that? I know I don't give much of a fuck...
HAHAH, well put!!! No i don't think geography has anything to do with it and I didn't say it did. Unfortunately for us though we will always be thought of them next door when someone says 'Manchester', at least for the time being. Remember when Michael Hughes went to Strasbourg? Well I remember a rumour at the time that Strasbourg fans were exstatic at the prospect of M.Hughes signing from 'Manchester'. Needless to say the rumour went on that they were slightly pissed off that it wasn't Mark Hughes from Manchester United! My point being that we will always come second to them whenever football and our city is mentioned, for the time being at least. And my point about 'super clubs' was that players will always choose Barca over us for that reason, because there is currently much more prestige and self-pride to go and play for Barca than there is to play for us, and as long as they continue to win things it will always be the case, whether we win what you think we can win or not.
Well that may be true in a way, but I don't judge anything about our club in the context of United, I don't use them as something to aspire to, nor to compare our victories/future victories (and the implications of them) to. I just want City to be as well known and highly regarded (for winnning things) as is possible - and when you think of that as the goal, rather than gaining ground on/bragging rights over the rags, it's actually a much more positive goal and one where the only way we can go rightly seems to be upwards.
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Just to add to this debate.
I have said many times in the past and on this thread that I wouldnt be surprised or heartbroken to see him leave.
I belive he is a great player but that he doesn't really suit us or England. This is because of the way that he puts his foot on the ball when he receives it and is not really a pass and move player. He lost posession too many times last year and put us under pressure. If he doesnt lose it, often our fast breaks break down when he does this and momentum is lost.
HOWEVER
I am really looking forward to see how he is with our new players. And I believe the coaches have been trying to work on this with him. There is a chance that this weakness could be eliminated this year and if that is the case then he will truly be a force in the Premier League and I'd be gutted to see him go. But I wouldn't blame him.
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I have said many times in the past and on this thread that I wouldnt be surprised or heartbroken to see him leave.
I belive he is a great player but that he doesn't really suit us or England. This is because of the way that he puts his foot on the ball when he receives it and is not really a pass and move player. He lost posession too many times last year and put us under pressure. If he doesnt lose it, often our fast breaks break down when he does this and momentum is lost.
HOWEVER
I am really looking forward to see how he is with our new players. And I believe the coaches have been trying to work on this with him. There is a chance that this weakness could be eliminated this year and if that is the case then he will truly be a force in the Premier League and I'd be gutted to see him go. But I wouldn't blame him.
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johnmc
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Didsbury Dave said:But I wouldn't blame him.
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I doubt it would be his decision. I mean he will want to go to Barca as not many players wouldn't. But the only way he will go is if we let him. And I think Hughes would have no qualms letting him go. Which is why I see it happening.
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I agree with that, John. I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes has been letting it be known he's available for a while. Barca could be the first takers.
I wouldn't be surprised if they've both wanted a buyer to come forward, to be honest.
I've got no basis for that apart from gut feel.
I wouldn't be surprised if they've both wanted a buyer to come forward, to be honest.
I've got no basis for that apart from gut feel.
Didsbury Dave said:I agree with that, John. I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes has been letting it be known he's available for a while. Barca could be the first takers.
I wouldn't be surprised if they've both wanted a buyer to come forward, to be honest.
I've got no basis for that apart from gut feel.
i hope you have bad guts if you know what i mean, not sure why hughes would want to let him go, doesn't seem to be a disruptive influence, if anything he's the opposite from what i have seen.
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johnmc said:Cheltblue said:My point is this mate. History is something that can/will be built by any club that experiences some regular tangible success. The reality is that Barca, while currently being the worlds best club, only started their current run of success in the very early 90's. Im not sure they even won the CL before then but i may be wrong on that one. Real Madird were always the No1 club pre then.
We are in a similar positition to Chelsea 7 or 8 years ago. They have no where near the stature of Barca.
Look at the list as long as your arm of truly great footalling icons that have turned out for Barca over the years. Then there is the polical aspect and what it stands for in Catalunya and the rest of spain, the role it played in the Franco reign etc. The iconic Nou Camp stadium.
It would take 50 years of sustained success, controversy, style of football, breed of footballer etc to get to near them. They are more than a football club.
Had Chelsea won 5 of the last 10 Prem titles then they would hold a much higher stature in Euro football, and had Barca won just the 2 in the last 10 then we would not now be hailing them the best side in the world.
I doubt very much that the non-spanish players cared at all about the political history of Spain or historic rulers when they signed for Barca.
And imo, it would take any club a prolonged period of success of only 10-20 years and a prolonged period of non-success for Barca for a club to get somewhere near them. But i would imagine that our owners are planning just that on the first bit.
There are many clubs that are more than just a club when you take other factors into account. And moving back on-thread, i believe that the more success history we can start building immediately the more players will be not just willing, but wanting to sign for and/or stay at City.