robin van persie (continued)

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Last season Barca as far as I an remember bought 1 player. Why should we bid right left and centre for players that don't add anything to us, (and arguably would weaken us as it would mean departures)

Two actually- Cesc Fabregas and Alexis Sanchez.
 
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Pam said:
Why did Bobby say we don't need more strikers if all this is afoot?

If you're negotiating a price the last thing you say is 'I'm desperate for a striker'. Similarly, if we're looking at offloading Tevez or Dzeko the last thing you say is 'I'm desperate to offload a striker because I want to buy Van Persie'.
 
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CityFootball said:
Last season Barca as far as I an remember bought 1 player. Why should we bid right left and centre for players that don't add anything to us, (and arguably would weaken us as it would mean departures)

Two actually- Cesc Fabregas and Alexis Sanchez.
Sorry. Forgot Fabregas

But I think my point is valid. We have gone past the stage of buying any top player who is available, we have to think how it adds to what we have
 
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Marvin said:
richards30 said:
How seriously can people not want rvp at city??? He's fantastic!! If he scores over 30 goals for the arse think that he would do in our team??
He is fantastic, but I prefer Aguero, and his best partner would be Tevez.

At Arsenal, RVP was their spearhead and focal point. If City signed, he would not be.

Find it a bit worrying that we are thinking if tinkering with the very best aspect of our team which is the forward play. Hazard was a dumb deal, and I'm glad that fell through. Hopefully this will too.

If someone like Robben became available, I'd go for them, or martinez, but not a centre-forward. We already have the best forward line in Europe so why spend Millions putting FFP at risk in an area where we don't need it

Last season we were top scorers, and we missed Tevez for nearly the whole season, and it was Agueros first season. There's significant improvement to come.

We'd be much better off looking at strengthening the full back or centre-back positions. That's where we could improve. And if a star player becomes available we should look at it, but only if they are better than what we have. I don't see RVP as better than Aguero, or Tevez. Maybe better than Dzeko or Mario, but they are useful in that they are different to Aguero and Tevez

FFP worries would be offset by the sale of Dzeko. Simple.
 
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Stoned Rose said:
Marvin said:
richards30 said:
How seriously can people not want rvp at city??? He's fantastic!! If he scores over 30 goals for the arse think that he would do in our team??
He is fantastic, but I prefer Aguero, and his best partner would be Tevez.

At Arsenal, RVP was their spearhead and focal point. If City signed, he would not be.

Find it a bit worrying that we are thinking if tinkering with the very best aspect of our team which is the forward play. Hazard was a dumb deal, and I'm glad that fell through. Hopefully this will too.

If someone like Robben became available, I'd go for them, or martinez, but not a centre-forward. We already have the best forward line in Europe so why spend Millions putting FFP at risk in an area where we don't need it

Last season we were top scorers, and we missed Tevez for nearly the whole season, and it was Agueros first season. There's significant improvement to come.

We'd be much better off looking at strengthening the full back or centre-back positions. That's where we could improve. And if a star player becomes available we should look at it, but only if they are better than what we have. I don't see RVP as better than Aguero, or Tevez. Maybe better than Dzeko or Mario, but they are useful in that they are different to Aguero and Tevez

FFP worries would be offset by the sale of Dzeko. Simple.
maybe they would, but I'd rather start with Aguero and Tevez than Aguero and RVP or RVP and Tevez. And Dzeko gives us something which our other forwards don't have.

Add RVP and sell Dzeko or Mario. Footballing wise are we better off? Who'd you start from RVP, Tevez and Aguero? All 3? Maybe if you can do that, it would work

I trust mancini, but it's not a transfer that excites me. Neither was Hazard. Maybe that's inevitable as our team are Champions now. It's hard to find players who can better them
 
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Marvin said:
Stoned Rose said:
Marvin said:
He is fantastic, but I prefer Aguero, and his best partner would be Tevez.

At Arsenal, RVP was their spearhead and focal point. If City signed, he would not be.

Find it a bit worrying that we are thinking if tinkering with the very best aspect of our team which is the forward play. Hazard was a dumb deal, and I'm glad that fell through. Hopefully this will too.

If someone like Robben became available, I'd go for them, or martinez, but not a centre-forward. We already have the best forward line in Europe so why spend Millions putting FFP at risk in an area where we don't need it

Last season we were top scorers, and we missed Tevez for nearly the whole season, and it was Agueros first season. There's significant improvement to come.

We'd be much better off looking at strengthening the full back or centre-back positions. That's where we could improve. And if a star player becomes available we should look at it, but only if they are better than what we have. I don't see RVP as better than Aguero, or Tevez. Maybe better than Dzeko or Mario, but they are useful in that they are different to Aguero and Tevez

FFP worries would be offset by the sale of Dzeko. Simple.
maybe they would, but I'd rather start with Aguero and Tevez than Aguero and RVP or RVP and Tevez. And Dzeko gives us something which our other forwards don't have.

Add RVP and sell Dzeko or Mario. Footballing wise are we better off? Who'd you start from RVP, Tevez and Aguero? All 3? Maybe if you can do that, it would work

I trust mancini, but it's not a transfer that excites me. Neither was Hazard. Maybe that's inevitable as our team are Champions now. It's hard to find players who can better them


I like Dzeko is a player, but its a myth that he provides something more than van persie... he doesnt really bang em in with his head by the bagful(although he does some)... rvp scores some with his head, and his holdup play is superb, much more consistenltly good than dzeko.
 
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Always fear another injury is round the corner - but what an exciting signing he would be. Truly world class.
 
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Marvin said:
Stoned Rose said:
Marvin said:
He is fantastic, but I prefer Aguero, and his best partner would be Tevez.

At Arsenal, RVP was their spearhead and focal point. If City signed, he would not be.

Find it a bit worrying that we are thinking if tinkering with the very best aspect of our team which is the forward play. Hazard was a dumb deal, and I'm glad that fell through. Hopefully this will too.

If someone like Robben became available, I'd go for them, or martinez, but not a centre-forward. We already have the best forward line in Europe so why spend Millions putting FFP at risk in an area where we don't need it

Last season we were top scorers, and we missed Tevez for nearly the whole season, and it was Agueros first season. There's significant improvement to come.

We'd be much better off looking at strengthening the full back or centre-back positions. That's where we could improve. And if a star player becomes available we should look at it, but only if they are better than what we have. I don't see RVP as better than Aguero, or Tevez. Maybe better than Dzeko or Mario, but they are useful in that they are different to Aguero and Tevez

FFP worries would be offset by the sale of Dzeko. Simple.
maybe they would, but I'd rather start with Aguero and Tevez than Aguero and RVP or RVP and Tevez. And Dzeko gives us something which our other forwards don't have.

Add RVP and sell Dzeko or Mario. Footballing wise are we better off? Who'd you start from RVP, Tevez and Aguero? All 3? Maybe if you can do that, it would work

I trust mancini, but it's not a transfer that excites me. Neither was Hazard. Maybe that's inevitable as our team are Champions now. It's hard to find players who can better them

Marvin if you believe Tevez came back for any other reason other than he didn't get his move and wasn't getting paid then I don't know what to say.

Why are you putting your trust in Tevez?

Don't you agree he could kick off again at any time?

If we can ship Tevez out and replace him with RVP for a similar price then it's great business.
 
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Marvin said:
BobbyQ90 said:
OB1 said:
Or just plain ignorant?

Or just the opposite. Maybe he understands the fact that a striker is far from what we need and Van Persie has had 1 full season without injury and that we already have two strikers (Tevez, Aguero) who are the same type of players. Plus he's 28 going to be 29 at the beginning of the season. There is no point in buying Robin Van Persie.
Exactly my feelings. We might be targeting some outstanding players, but I wonder whether these players are better than what we have. So far the players we are in for, do not represent a step forward unlike previous transfer windows.

As the team improves each year, it's natural that it will get harder to improve on what we have. I wish we would sit tight and wait, if necessary for the whole season, rather than bidding for the best player at any particular moment in time. There's no rush any more.

Last season Barca as far as I an remember bought 1 player. Why should we bid right left and centre for players that don't add anything to us, (and arguably would weaken us as it would mean departures)

Barca were arguably the greatest club side ever; City are inarguably not the greatest club side ever but with serious aspirations to at least become the best side in the world. Therefore we need to strengthen. RvP for Dzeko, for example, would improve us - it's that simple.
 
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