Rochdale v. Mini-me Rags

[Ray78]

Rags in Non League clothing.

 

[mike o]

I've a few mates who gave up season tickets following the rags to start up and follow F.C and have never been back.

I've the utmost respect for them and know full well how much it hurt and how much they hate what football has become.

Personally I couldn't stop watching City but i do respect the fact that quite a few rags have stuck to their guns and think that they are right that modern football has lost touch with the average chap in the street

 

[Manc1968]

I've said it before but still people like Oliver Holt in the Mirror keep extolling them as 'football's conscience'. They are NOT a breakaway club. A breakaway club is AFC Wimbledon, they have severed all ties with the 'parent' club. You would never get AFC Wimbledon fans cheering on MK Dons and vice versa.
Not so with FC United of Bury. They are simply a Happy Shopper version of the 'real thing'. Their fans still support 'Big United' as they laughably call them. They have not 'broken away'. They have just decided they don't want to pay Premier League admission money, but they'll still watch them on ther box. Some even go to watch both sides.
They are effectively a franchise (in the retail sense, rather than the American sport definition) of the rags operating in non-league football. What are the chances of FC United of Dublin or Singapore in the future?
They are not, as they try to portray themselves, as rebels of conscience or social activitists, the sons of Peterloo. They are a bunch of disloyal, pompous, self-important gobshites and splitters, formed by empire-building fanzine writers who want to look important but found their egos and status bruised when organisations like MUST stole their limelight.
They are watched by obese twats who long for the days when 'The Red Army' used to kick off in shopping centres in Plymouth and Southampton, and so bring their black Primark-clad, rodent-featured offspring along to show them how 'United' can terrorise long-standing, traditional non-league clubs with a real identity and history. You know, the very ones they could have gone to watch if all they really yearned for was a return to 'proper' grass roots football. We are not short on non-league clubs in Greater Manchester and I'm sure the likes of Trafford Borough or Salford City would have been grateful for the extra support.
But then they couldn't guarantee they would win every week, which is what they demanded. So they had to set up a club vastly richer than its rivals so they could steamroller teams in the lower levels of the football pyramid. After all, there's no point watching your team if they're not top of the league, is there? After all, Chelsea were winning everything in the Premier League at that time and it was no fun for a plastic, so lets have a new team that wins all the time instead.
They are a joke

what utter rubbish!!. Like it or not they decided that Glazer taking over was the final straw. Some completely changed and have never set foot in OT since, others flit between the 2, others use FC or Utd as their 2nd team. Reasons vary from SKY TV, prawn sandwich brigade, new age fans, ticket prices, players lack of reality, Utd pissing them off with their general attitude to the everyday fan and or changing of football kick off times to suit TV.
To give up going to one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world especially when it is on your doorstep is a step that while many dont agree with should be respected.
A lot of Utd fans completely disagree with it and this issue has split the core utd support where once it was "all as one" and "us against the world" attitudes.
As for your references about the "red army" again rubbish...trouble follows them because inbreds from non league teams think it is the opportunity to have a pop at "Utd"
anybody who attended the FC Utd vs Maine Rd game a couple of years ago will prove that it was no place where the "red army" congregated to attack women and kids etc. It wa simply 2 non league sides linked to big clubs having a "local derby"
Any team, that grows from nothing to an average of 2-2500 fans, who have sold 4000 for the cup game at rochdale deserve some recognition no matter how begrudging.
Good luck to them and all fans who do "their own thing" rather than toe the SKY modern day football mantra which is slowly killing the game we ALL love

 

[el blue]

I've a few mates who gave up season tickets following the rags to start up and follow F.C and have never been back.

I've the utmost respect for them and know full well how much it hurt and how much they hate what football has become.

Personally I couldn't stop watching City but i do respect the fact that quite a few rags have stuck to their guns and think that they are right that modern football has lost touch with the average chap in the street

you know full well how much it hurt? what are you on about you egg.

dont dont dont... dont believe the hype. they should get no respect as they lost touch with football before it ever lost touch with them. arseholes of the highest order.

 

[laserblue]

I've said it before but still people like Oliver Holt in the Mirror keep extolling them as 'football's conscience'. They are NOT a breakaway club. A breakaway club is AFC Wimbledon, they have severed all ties with the 'parent' club. You would never get AFC Wimbledon fans cheering on MK Dons and vice versa.
Not so with FC United of Bury. They are simply a Happy Shopper version of the 'real thing'. Their fans still support 'Big United' as they laughably call them. They have not 'broken away'. They have just decided they don't want to pay Premier League admission money, but they'll still watch them on ther box. Some even go to watch both sides.
They are effectively a franchise (in the retail sense, rather than the American sport definition) of the rags operating in non-league football. What are the chances of FC United of Dublin or Singapore in the future?
They are not, as they try to portray themselves, as rebels of conscience or social activitists, the sons of Peterloo. They are a bunch of disloyal, pompous, self-important gobshites and splitters, formed by empire-building fanzine writers who want to look important but found their egos and status bruised when organisations like MUST stole their limelight.
They are watched by obese twats who long for the days when 'The Red Army' used to kick off in shopping centres in Plymouth and Southampton, and so bring their black Primark-clad, rodent-featured offspring along to show them how 'United' can terrorise long-standing, traditional non-league clubs with a real identity and history. You know, the very ones they could have gone to watch if all they really yearned for was a return to 'proper' grass roots football. We are not short on non-league clubs in Greater Manchester and I'm sure the likes of Trafford Borough or Salford City would have been grateful for the extra support.
But then they couldn't guarantee they would win every week, which is what they demanded. So they had to set up a club vastly richer than its rivals so they could steamroller teams in the lower levels of the football pyramid. After all, there's no point watching your team if they're not top of the league, is there? After all, Chelsea were winning everything in the Premier League at that time and it was no fun for a plastic, so lets have a new team that wins all the time instead.
They are a joke

what utter rubbish!!. Like it or not they decided that Glazer taking over was the final straw. Some completely changed and have never set foot in OT since, others flit between the 2, others use FC or Utd as their 2nd team. Reasons vary from SKY TV, prawn sandwich brigade, new age fans, ticket prices, players lack of reality, Utd pissing them off with their general attitude to the everyday fan and or changing of football kick off times to suit TV.
To give up going to one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world especially when it is on your doorstep is a step that while many dont agree with should be respected.
A lot of Utd fans completely disagree with it and this issue has split the core utd support where once it was "all as one" and "us against the world" attitudes.
As for your references about the "red army" again rubbish...trouble follows them because inbreds from non league teams think it is the opportunity to have a pop at "Utd"
anybody who attended the FC Utd vs Maine Rd game a couple of years ago will prove that it was no place where the "red army" congregated to attack women and kids etc. It wa simply 2 non league sides linked to big clubs having a "local derby"
Any team, that grows from nothing to an average of 2-2500 fans, who have sold 4000 for the cup game at rochdale deserve some recognition no matter how begrudging.
Good luck to them and all fans who do "their own thing" rather than toe the SKY modern day football mantra which is slowly killing the game we ALL love

spoken like a true rag wanting the best of both fucking worlds.

 

[Soulboy]

I've said it before but still people like Oliver Holt in the Mirror keep extolling them as 'football's conscience'. They are NOT a breakaway club. A breakaway club is AFC Wimbledon, they have severed all ties with the 'parent' club. You would never get AFC Wimbledon fans cheering on MK Dons and vice versa.
Not so with FC United of Bury. They are simply a Happy Shopper version of the 'real thing'. Their fans still support 'Big United' as they laughably call them. They have not 'broken away'. They have just decided they don't want to pay Premier League admission money, but they'll still watch them on ther box. Some even go to watch both sides.
They are effectively a franchise (in the retail sense, rather than the American sport definition) of the rags operating in non-league football. What are the chances of FC United of Dublin or Singapore in the future?
They are not, as they try to portray themselves, as rebels of conscience or social activitists, the sons of Peterloo. They are a bunch of disloyal, pompous, self-important gobshites and splitters, formed by empire-building fanzine writers who want to look important but found their egos and status bruised when organisations like MUST stole their limelight.
They are watched by obese twats who long for the days when 'The Red Army' used to kick off in shopping centres in Plymouth and Southampton, and so bring their black Primark-clad, rodent-featured offspring along to show them how 'United' can terrorise long-standing, traditional non-league clubs with a real identity and history. You know, the very ones they could have gone to watch if all they really yearned for was a return to 'proper' grass roots football. We are not short on non-league clubs in Greater Manchester and I'm sure the likes of Trafford Borough or Salford City would have been grateful for the extra support.
But then they couldn't guarantee they would win every week, which is what they demanded. So they had to set up a club vastly richer than its rivals so they could steamroller teams in the lower levels of the football pyramid. After all, there's no point watching your team if they're not top of the league, is there? After all, Chelsea were winning everything in the Premier League at that time and it was no fun for a plastic, so lets have a new team that wins all the time instead.
They are a joke

what utter rubbish!!. Like it or not they decided that Glazer taking over was the final straw. Some completely changed and have never set foot in OT since, others flit between the 2, others use FC or Utd as their 2nd team. Reasons vary from SKY TV, prawn sandwich brigade, new age fans, ticket prices, players lack of reality, Utd pissing them off with their general attitude to the everyday fan and or changing of football kick off times to suit TV.
To give up going to one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world especially when it is on your doorstep is a step that while many dont agree with should be respected.
A lot of Utd fans completely disagree with it and this issue has split the core utd support where once it was "all as one" and "us against the world" attitudes.
As for your references about the "red army" again rubbish...trouble follows them because inbreds from non league teams think it is the opportunity to have a pop at "Utd"
anybody who attended the FC Utd vs Maine Rd game a couple of years ago will prove that it was no place where the "red army" congregated to attack women and kids etc. It wa simply 2 non league sides linked to big clubs having a "local derby"
Any team, that grows from nothing to an average of 2-2500 fans, who have sold 4000 for the cup game at rochdale deserve some recognition no matter how begrudging.
Good luck to them and all fans who do "their own thing" rather than toe the SKY modern day football mantra which is slowly killing the game we ALL love

Such absolute crap... and the sort of tosh the apologists always come out with.

Respect? Respect for what? For turning their backs on the club they supported? Yeah, respect!

I've suffered more crap directors, boards, managers than any sane man should suffer, and yet not once, not ONCE, have I ever thought of turning my back on my club.

But all the "One Love" sheep couldn't wait to start up again, seeing as Chelsea had started to dominate and the Rags were no longer the biggest players.

Surprisingly, now the rags have turned it round again, so many of the mini-me rags are back again supporting their "One Love" team.

Funny, but when I was watching City in the late 90's stumble about in the third division, I never thought of supporting someone else... in fact I had a great time following my team to all the smaller grounds in the country, having a ball of a time, while the rags were sweeping all before them.

I remember saying to some rags at the time that they'd never understood how much love can be generated in times of crisis, but to them it was just about trophies. And it still is, for both sets of fans.

Now we have FCUM's on here taking the moral high ground that they love football for just the pleasure of it rather than the trophies... but you fuckers weren't saying that when you were doing the treble though were you?

And for the crap about all pally and chums together having a jolly boys outing... I've been to a few FCUM matches and believe me the level of intimidation, threats, swagger and arrogance is akin to the glory days of Doc's Red Army when you bullied all the small towns of the second divison at the time... just like the Fuckems do know.

The game against Maine Road kicked off, or weren't you there?

I weary with rags apologising for the FCUM, that they should be respected.

If you want respect, then dump the Rag allegiances, support your club and stop hanging on the coat tails for vicarious success. Stand on your own two feet rather than living for the fall back position of going back and supporting the rags.

Fuck me, it''s bad enough that they jumped ship the first time, but it must be embarrassing that so many jump ship back to OT for the success as well. If the Glazers were the "final straw" how come so many still attend?

I know a fair bit about the running of the club and I know that the vast majority are simply rags in pub league clothing.

Oh, and taking 4,000 to Rochdale.. I'm surprised it's not 40,000... and I think that sums up what FCUM really are.

Hypocrites, the fucking lot of 'em...

 

[LongsightM13]

Bravo, Soulboy and Rasclott

 

[mcfcliam]

FC fans ditched their club in their time of need.

Unforgivable.

 

[blue cigar]

the fact they agreed to a friday night kick off to get the tv money tells you everything you need to know about these confused wankers.

 

[Soulboy]

the fact they agreed to a friday night kick off to get the tv money tells you everything you need to know about these confused wankers.

Yep, and I remember them clearly stating that they would not go down that path. That they would never sponsor the shirt, never bow to the TV paymaster, would always put their fans first...

The reality is that they have a commercial set-up that would put most Championship sides to shame...

Believe it or not, but they are run by some very clever people. I don't question that. They have created a "product" in much the same way as tribute bands like the Australia Pink Floyd, or the numerous other ones, that coin in the dosh... if you can't afford the real thing... then we'll bring you the next best thing.

They are run by marketing geniuses. Seriously. And the mug punters haven't a fucking clue they're all being conned.

Malcolm McLaren would be proud of Andy Walsh and the way he controls things... "pretty vacant"...or "The Greatest Football Swindle"... take your choice.