Roll call for 9 minute protest

[mexico1970]

Hatred, loads on here slagging 'tourists'

Show me?

Every post I have seen has been specific other than the race baiters on here being consistent.

 

[mexico1970]

Nonsense, a lot of people on here just dont like 'tourists' full stop & i mean City fans classed as a tourist.

If you don't like a City fan because they are not from around here then you don't really deserve to be a fan IMHO.

 

[ArniArason]

So, go on then - how experienced are you? How long have you been a season ticket holder and how many different grounds have you see City play on?

I used to watch them when they were St Mark's Church playing with a pig skin sack.

 

[Damocles]

This is well meaning whataboutery

The problems at City are mirrored at other clubs, take a look at Yanky owned Liverpool, I choose Liverpool because unlike Utd they've been relatively successful recently, but FSG is corporate America, they're just more astute than the Glazers at running a franchise.

Liverpool were at the forefront of the Super League and one of the main drivers around the 115 campaign to destroy our reputation, that kind of ruthlessness is as American as mom and apple pie. They'll win the league this season but they'll not invest enough to take them to next level.

The scousers might consider themselves Madrid level but FSG aren't willing to make the investment to get them there, our owners are, they have the motivation and the means to do it, and while Khaldoon talks about patience, he's actually in a hurry and when you're in a hurry you trample on stuff, particularly if you have no affinity to it.

Legacy fans are in the way of what Khaldoon wants to build here, whereas FSG pay lip service to the Anfield atmosphere, it's history and the fans, they do so because, and this is the point, Liverpool's legacy generates revenue ours does not.

In fact Liverpool's legacy serves a dual purpose, a glorious history and the Anfield experience has been commodified to keep the Irish and the Scandinavians coming even during the lean times, and be in no doubt, there'll be more lean times for the scousers and the Danes and the Irish than for us. Because FSG won't spend the money as we will, coz they're in the franchise business and we're in the dynasty building business and new dynasties are built on the ruins of the old...

hence....

To....

Emiratis might love football and might indulge what they see as the quirks and peculiarities of Manchester City football culture and its people, but not if it stands in the way of what they want to build, if it's in the way its gone, in this one regard they're even more of a danger than the likes of FSG or even the Glazers.

I'm not sure building schools, hospitals, infrastructure and the like is some dominant destruction path mate.

In the picture you've shown, most of those houses didn't have indoor plumbing. Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits. Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers.

 

[pride in battle]

Show me?

Every post I have seen has been specific other than the race baiters on here being consistent.

Please... the last couple of years has been full of it, people want half & half scarves banned because 'tourists' wear them, even if they are City fans.
Tourists for a lot of City fans represents a hike in prices and REAL City fans can't get a ticket.

 

[pride in battle]

If you don't like a City fan because they are not from around here then you don't really deserve to be a fan IMHO.

Wow we agree on something :)

 

[M18CTID]

I used to watch them when they were St Mark's Church playing with a pig skin sack.

Fair play to you. You old twat ;)

 

[mexico1970]

Wow we agree on something :)

I have always said the exact same thing, the only thing we don't agree on with the term tourist is if you like it or not :)

 

[mexico1970]

Please... the last couple of years has been full of it, people want half & half scarves banned because 'tourists' wear them, even if they are City fans.
Tourists for a lot of City fans represents a hike in prices and REAL City fans can't get a ticket.

Half and half scarves are shit and do need fucking off, and tickets should go to regular fans before they go to fans who have just initiated a matchday membership (They don't do that though because the memberships are worthless they order rows of seats to sit with their friends from legal touts).

Again, if you're a City fan and you sit in the City end and you don't support Liverpool or the rags then more power to you.

But if you arrive on a coach with 30 other people and get a ticket to a big game in front of City fans AND you jump about when our opponents score you deserve all the shit you get and more :)

 

[The perfect fumble]

I'm not sure building schools, hospitals, infrastructure and the like is some dominant destruction path mate.

In the picture you've shown, most of those houses didn't have indoor plumbing. Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits. Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers.

I'd forgotten how in your zeal to be right all the time you deliberately misinterpret.

As for...

"Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits."

Consent? I'm an admirer of the UAE and have been there many times, but the UAE is a tribal autocracy for crying out loud!

as for...

"Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers"

I compared them in one regard, I won't ask you what that one point was, as It clearly went right over your head

Debating with you is a complete waste of time.

Please don't reply, you irritate the f**k out of me.

 

[fathellensbellend]

I see City fans from abroad, particularly from America being interviewed by Cheesy, but these are really committed blues. Technically they are tourists, but they are not football tourists. They have come half way around the world to maybe catch 1-2 games a season.

What annoys me is that on a CL night, when half the seasoncard holders don't show, a lot of local young Mancunians come to the game, and many are asian/black and they speak foreign languages and wear half and half scarfs and some people think they are tourists or casual fans. Perhaps some are less committed than a seasoncard holder of 30 years, but we were once them. And what do people want, empty seats? We will have a 62k stadium to fill. Once City's hard core was 30k.

i don't care where people are from, creed, colour nationality as long as they are passionate blues, and everyone is treated the same, fair ticketing, fair access and a stadium full of City fans, new ones, old ones, but City fans. The one dividing factor in all this discussion is City's ticketing policy, not making tickets available to blues until they have failed to sell them for inflated sums on 3rd party sites, and the buyers are perceived to be tourists or worse still fans of the opponents. The stadium will be huge next season, what a venue it could be if we make the most it, and treat all Blues from all around the world with the same respect, the club have caused the division with their greedy policies, alienating core support chasing pound notes, short sighted and disrespectful to old and new City fans.

 

[Damocles]

I'd forgotten how in your zeal to be right all the time you deliberately misinterpret.

As for...

"Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits."

Consent? I'm an admirer of the UAE and have been there many times, but the UAE is a tribal autocracy for crying out loud!

as for...

"Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers"

I compared them in one regard, I won't ask you what that one point was, as It clearly went right over your head

Debating with you is a complete waste of time.

Please don't reply, you irritate the f**k out of me.

Oh, I thought we were friends

 

[mexico1970]

i don't care where people are from, creed, colour nationality as long as they are passionate blues, and everyone is treated the same, fair ticketing, fair access and a stadium full of City fans, new ones, old ones, but City fans. The one dividing factor in all this discussion is City's ticketing policy, not making tickets available to blues until they have failed to sell them for inflated sums on 3rd party sites, and the buyers are perceived to be tourists or worse still fans of the opponents. The stadium will be huge next season, what a venue it could be if we make the most it, and treat all Blues from all around the world with the same respect, the club have caused the division with their greedy policies, alienating core support chasing pound notes, short sighted and disrespectful to old and new City fans.

Makes me want to put on my old Chelsea shirt and go an have a bit of crack down the Shed End.

 

[TheGhost]

I used to watch them when they were St Mark's Church playing with a pig skin sack.

Yeah well I used to shag Anna Connell when she was young and fit.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I used to watch them when they were St Mark's Church playing with a pig skin sack.

Me dad let me stay up to watch the highlights on the Magic Lantern.

And thrash me if we lost....or won come to think of it.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Agree with most of that. Just on Matchday tickets,as a buyer, I don't expect to pay less than a SC holders,and doubt the SC holders would either so the £30/£40 cap wouldn't work.Maybe something like to price of that seat to a SC holder + £10 would work.
Good to see a post with decent proposals to talk around not just complaints though.

Thanks, That's a good idea you mentioned!

 

[stonerblue]

I'd forgotten how in your zeal to be right all the time you deliberately misinterpret.

As for...

"Sheikh Zayed built the entire country with the consent of its citizens and gave them incredible benefits."

Consent? I'm an admirer of the UAE and have been there many times, but the UAE is a tribal autocracy for crying out loud!

as for...

"Comparing the Al Nahyans to the Glazers is bonkers"

I compared them in one regard, I won't ask you what that one point was, as It clearly went right over your head

Debating with you is a complete waste of time.

Please don't reply, you irritate the f**k out of me.

Hahahahaha

 

[.db.]

Tourists are tourists

When you jump up and down in a seat in the home end when our opponents score you're a tourist.

It's dead easy but some people just can't stop themselves.

You’re also a ‘tourist’/‘daytripper’/‘problem’ when you go to a City game at the Etihad with a random shirt or scarf (not even half’n’half, a full-on proper scarf) of a club who aren’t even playing.

In the last two seasons alone this has included: an Arsenal shirt, an Arsenal coat, United souvineer shop bags (multiple times, do City have some sort of deal with United that lets them do both stadium tours and get a ticket for each others games or something?), Celtic shirt, Hajduk Split shirts, Bahia shirts, Liverpool scarf (genuinely, for a game against someone like Fulham), Albania NT shirt, Mexico NT shirt, River Plate shirt, row of Barcelona fans in Barça shirts at Anfield, row of Mallorca fans at Ipswich all wearing the same random mustard colours hats which caused fans to ask them who they were, some fucking idiot with a United hat on in our away end at Anfield last season… and that’s just what I’ve seen or been told of, fuck knows what it comes to across the Etihad and our away end over the years.

These are all from the recent City v Liverpool game:





Get them fucked off!

Same with the people who turn up and are just a fan of an individual player from the opposition team. Get them fucked off!

Same with the people who just turn up and are glued to their phones, taking in seconds of the game at a time, not celebrating our goals, not interested in City whatsoever. Get them fucked off!

These aren’t worldwide supporters of City. They’re all a fucking nuisance and taking tickets off proper City fans.

In contrast, here is an example of some Japanese City fans from the other night, next to the 1894 singing section. They joined in with as many chants as they knew the words to. Here they are going mad-for-it in the ‘Oscar Bobb Bobb Bobb’ chant.

Top banana! They’re welcome any time.

 

[.db.]

I organised a singing section for the game on Weds. 100+ City fans in SSL3. We have a few people of different nationalities who all had a great time. No one was abused or called a tourist.

I stand with a good mate in 115 normally. He's an Indian lad who's moved to Manchester to become a Dr. Everyone loves him round me and he's never had any issues.

I suspect that more of this hostility happens in areas of the ground where the effects of the club's ticketing policy is more prevalent.

For example, a few weeks ago, the Tunnel Club was full of people celebrating Real Madrid's goals. It's absolutely not right that people like Mohammed are getting called a tourist, that's why we need the protests and uproar to coerce the club into doing the right thing (which would prevent it).

My point is that the sentiment you're describing doesn't come from the fans. We are absolutely not a racist fanbase (collectively). The club have created this toxic environment via their ticketing policy.

Indeed.

Here are some lads who stand in 115. Mancunians, proper Blues like me or anyone else:



They’re in our WhatsApp group chat and were up on the 1894 singing section the other night.

I reiterate, about the Japanese fans singing all game the other night in my post above.

These are not the people who anyone has a problem with.

This is an issue where there’s a fine line between wanting Manchester City to be as ‘Manchester’ as possible, and it enticing in a few people who end up showing their true colours when it comes to xenophobia and race.

Manchester City stands should prioritise local people over everyone else around the world even if they are City fans. The people of Manchester (of all races) should be able to afford and gain access to Manchester City tickets over anyone else. Worldwide City fans are then welcome after the Manchester people are prioritised, looked after and sorted.

Anyone who’s a City fan is sound and I’d look out for them all day.

But there’s a distinction, in many cases a fucking massive one, between them and the nuisances that are swarming our stadium and away ends.

The amount of Madrid fans and Liverpool fans in the City home stands in the recent City v Madrid and City v Liverpool games was a fucking disgrace!

 

[blue44]

Indeed.

Here are some lads who stand in 115. Mancunians, proper Blues like me or anyone else:

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They’re in our WhatsApp group chat and were up on the 1894 singing section the other night.

I reiterate, about the Japanese fans singing all game the other night in my post above.

These are not the people who anyone has a problem with.

This is an issue where there’s a fine line between wanting Manchester City to be as ‘Manchester’ as possible, and it enticing in a few people who end up showing their true colours when it comes to xenophobia and race.

Manchester City stands should prioritise local people over everyone else around the world even if they are City fans. The people of Manchester (of all races) should be able to afford and gain access to Manchester City tickets over anyone else. Worldwide City fans are then welcome after the Manchester people are prioritised, looked after and sorted.

Anyone who’s a City fan is sound and I’d look out for them all day.

But there’s a distinction, in many cases a fucking massive one, between them and the nuisances that are swarming our stadium and away ends.

The amount of Madrid fans and Liverpool fans in the City home stands in the recent City v Madrid and City v Liverpool games was a fucking disgrace!

When I went through the security checks on weds v leicester, as I'd been checked and was walking away,the steward called me back, he asked me to unzip my jacket, I asked him why after he's done his wand thing before etc.

He said, " he wanted to check what I had on under my jacket " so I said why ?

he said " incase I had a leicester top on " , I couldn't believe it.

So,how do these opposing fans get in our ends ? First time that as happened to me though.