Rony Lopes

[Clevers]

Ok here's the situation. Denayer's agent says he might move on. City are begging him to stay & sign a new deal. His agent says he will only sign if he is given assurances.

Let's stop it there. Denayer can leave on a free, his agent says he will go if not given assurances.

Are you telling me that at the time, his agent was lying & he was just going to sign anyway ?

Are you saying the club were lying?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Dont use preseason friendlies (where we only had 7 first team players fucking available at the start of the tour) as proof of giving kids a chance. Come on man.

I will, because we err...used them. The reality is, as I've said several times today, a club in our position can ill-afford to risk trophies at this stage of our development. There's been a sea change alone at the club this summer, and it will continue, and I firmly believe that in the years to come, when we have cemented our status, we will blood youngsters who deserve the shot. I'm certainly not going to panic about it, or accuse the club of being disingenuous, because one player, who was on the fringes at best, has decided to leave.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

So you're saying the agent is being slanderous? Yet City don't mind? I wonder why that is?

No, not at all. The agent said what he said, at the time. It's not beyond reason to suggest there were subsequent conversations.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

So you're saying the agent is being slanderous? Yet City don't mind? I wonder why that is?

and no, I was suggesting that about posters in here.

 

[twosips]

I feel like im banging my head against the wall. This is never gonna get through. Bored of idiots saying that anyone who wants a kid to be given a chance must want five thrown in at the deep end or sumat. Or that we're not allowed an opinion cos we're not a coach. Or that Denayer was an idiot for thinking he'd get a chance after clearly being told he would. Or that playing a kid in a cup game would compromise the whole season effectively. Or that are kids are shit cos they must be if they haven't played yet.

I've realised there's two camps here.

1) Those who are more excited about signing KDB for £57m
2) Those who would rather we made our own KDB instead, cos it is possible cos we have talent with that potential.

Fucking pointless discussion. Some will not hear a solitary bad word said about the club even when its staring them in the face, slapping them, with quotes to prove it too. It's naive and frustrating. Fine - have it that way. I love everything the Sheikh has done for City, but this is the one (and probably only) area where i'm 100% convinced we're getting it wrong.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Are you saying the club were lying?

Absolutely yes.

They broke their promise to the player. I think they were going to loan out Mangala but he started so well, they changed tgeir minds & suddenly had 5 cbs so Denayer got shit on. This will be a big thing for those in a similar position.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I feel like im banging my head against the wall. This is never gonna get through. Bored of idiots saying that anyone who wants a kid to be given a chance must want five thrown in at the deep end or sumat. Or that we're not allowed an opinion cos we're not a coach. Or that Denayer was an idiot for thinking he'd get a chance after clearly being told he would. Or that playing a kid in a cup game would compromise the whole season effectively. Or that are kids are shit cos they must be if they haven't played yet.

I've realised there's two camps here.

1) Those who are more excited about signing KDB for £57m
2) Those who would rather we made our own KDB instead.

Fucking pointless discussion. Some will not hear a solitary bad word said about the club even when its staring them in the face, slapping them and there's quotes to prove it. It's naive and frustrating. Fine - have it that way. I love everything the Sheikh has done for City, but this is the one (and probably only) area where i'm 100% convinced we're getting it wrong.

Your first paragraph is a load of emotive nonsense based purely on perception, and not really anything related to what posters have said.

Creating a counter-argument to set your view against to make it look more rational or better, sadly doesn't work, as it's easy to see through.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Absolutely yes.

They broke their promise to the player. I think they were going to loan out Mangala but he started so well, they changed tgeir minds & suddenly had 5 cbs so Denayer got shit on. This will be a big thing for those in a similar position.

you're entitled to your perception of a small number of the overall facts, that were relevant at different times in the summer.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I will, because we err...used them. The reality is, as I've said several times today, a club in our position can ill-afford to risk trophies at this stage of our development. There's been a sea change alone at the club this summer, and it will continue, and I firmly believe that in the years to come, when we have cemented our status, we will blood youngsters who deserve the shot. I'm certainly not going to panic about it, or accuse the club of being disingenuous, because one player, who was on the fringes at best, has decided to leave.

If winning two titles in 4 years isn't 'cementing our status' what is ?

You really believe that having a few kids in the squad costs titles ?

I absolutely despair at that kind of thinking.

 

[Clevers]

Absolutely yes.

They broke their promise to the player. I think they were going to loan out Mangala but he started so well, they changed tgeir minds & suddenly had 5 cbs so Denayer got shit on. This will be a big thing for those in a similar position.

We'll have to differ I can't believe any club could definitively give him the promise he feels he has received.