Ross Barkley

[LoveCity]

He has everything in his game to become a major star for us.

Barkley is a kid, and would be a tremendous asset. Give him a break, and City, for that matter.

We don't sign young players, we get slagged off.

We don't sign British talent, we get slagged off.

Some people really need to watch the game a little closer, rather than wanting the shiniest toy to brag about.

Tell me again, where's Gourcuff, where's Diego, where's Queresma, all names I have seen down the years on here.

He has been hung out to dry this season by a manager who stated he would become the greatest English player EVER. Think about that for a second.

Martinez has stuck him out on the wing, played him too quickly after injuries, playing in a team running on empty due to Europa League participation, coupled with a key injury to McCarthy and the continued downgrade of Barry.

If we think he is too expensive, we will walk away, as we have done with every other target.

He's a capable squad player right now who might just become a major star. Even the great Iniesta stated recently that Barkley is one of the few English players who could play at Barcelona.

We've forgotten what the transfer landscape looks like these days, having been forced to cut our cloth.

£20m doesn't buy elite, it buys you a certain tier of performer who can still hold their own - we need that.

I agree with some of the posts on here, £20m is a reasonable price if we include future add-ons.

Agree with all of that and i've seen lot worse names than that recommended on here.All of a sudden slag Barkley seems to have become to sheep thing on here !

Well I can only speak for myself and have focused on Barkley every time I've seen Everton this season after he has been linked so much with us. And in most games, he's done nothing. Absolutely nothing. So sorry, but I can't agree with "he has everything". Sterling is much closer to having everything and has more of an impact on games. Great young players shine at average teams, that's how they usually land their big move. But Barkley isn't shining at all. Someone posted a video of him looking good against Spurs, but there have been far more mediocre performances than ones like that. The other week he started against Leicester and was beyond poor, then subbed off by Martinez.

This reminds me a bit of Torres after he lost it. Barkley hasn't lost it (he has to find "it" first). But long after Torres stopped performing at his former heights, so many still pretended he was the same Torres and ignored the evidence of him not being the same. In Barkley's case, people are remembering the very few outstanding performances by him but not considering nearly every week he does nothing for Everton. An attacking midfielder should either score or create goals, it's a crucial position and its occupant needs to leave some sort of lasting impact on games. He has been doing neither. I'm not writing him off, he may become a good player in time but he is not worth the hype that is still attached to him and if we pay an amount for him that significantly impacts our overall transfer budget, the decision makers at City should be sectioned... imo.

Jordan Henderson is out of contract in 2016 and shows a lot more than Barkley. Not that I'd rush to sign him either but watch Henderson perform in the high tempo Liverpool performances, showing a sense of responsibility. If Barkley did this, I'd have no worries about signing him. And as mentioned, our own Rony Lopes is also doing it, standing out in a team that is quite clueless without him going forward.

 

[whicko]

He has everything in his game to become a major star for us.

Barkley is a kid, and would be a tremendous asset. Give him a break, and City, for that matter.

We don't sign young players, we get slagged off.

We don't sign British talent, we get slagged off.

Some people really need to watch the game a little closer, rather than wanting the shiniest toy to brag about.

Tell me again, where's Gourcuff, where's Diego, where's Queresma, all names I have seen down the years on here.

He has been hung out to dry this season by a manager who stated he would become the greatest English player EVER. Think about that for a second.

Martinez has stuck him out on the wing, played him too quickly after injuries, playing in a team running on empty due to Europa League participation, coupled with a key injury to McCarthy and the continued downgrade of Barry.

If we think he is too expensive, we will walk away, as we have done with every other target.

He's a capable squad player right now who might just become a major star. Even the great Iniesta stated recently that Barkley is one of the few English players who could play at Barcelona.

We've forgotten what the transfer landscape looks like these days, having been forced to cut our cloth.

£20m doesn't buy elite, it buys you a certain tier of performer who can still hold their own - we need that.

I agree with some of the posts on here, £20m is a reasonable price if we include future add-ons.

Agree with all of that and i've seen lot worse names than that recommended on here.All of a sudden slag Barkley seems to have become to sheep thing on here !

Well I can only speak for myself and have focused on Barkley every time I've seen Everton this season after he has been linked so much with us. And in most games, he's done nothing. Absolutely nothing. So sorry, but I can't agree with "he has everything". Sterling is much closer to having everything and has more of an impact on games. Great young players shine at average teams, that's how they usually land their big move. But Barkley isn't shining at all. Someone posted a video of him looking good against Spurs, but there have been far more mediocre performances than ones like that. The other week he started against Leicester and was beyond poor, then subbed off by Martinez.

This reminds me a bit of Torres after he lost it. Barkley hasn't lost it (he has to find "it" first). But long after Torres stopped performing at his former heights, so many still pretended he was the same Torres and ignored the evidence of him not being the same. In Barkley's case, people are remembering the very few outstanding performances by him but not considering nearly every week he does nothing for Everton. An attacking midfielder should either score or create goals, it's a crucial position and its occupant needs to leave some sort of lasting impact on games. He has been doing neither. I'm not writing him off, he may become a good player in time but he is not worth the hype that is still attached to him and if we pay an amount for him that significantly impacts our overall transfer budget, the decision makers at City should be sectioned... imo.

Jordan Henderson is out of contract in 2016 and shows a lot more than Barkley. Not that I'd rush to sign him either but watch Henderson perform in the high tempo Liverpool performances, showing a sense of responsibility. If Barkley did this, I'd have no worries about signing him. And as mentioned, our own Rony Lopes is also doing it, standing out in a team that is quite clueless without him going forward.

Totally agree, Barkley has gone backwards and rather than being raped by Kenwright again we should be giving the likes of Lopes his chance otherwise what is the point of having an academy.

 

[K-Bo]

A couple of people saying we pull out when we think a fee is too high is hilarious. We really haven't done that, we paid way over the odds for fernandinho, way over the odds for mangala, way over the odds for rodwell, for Bony arguably, for Jovetic. We even paid a couple mil shy of what schalke paid for nastasic on our reserve goalie that we don't even use.

We are really poor in the market, at both selling and buying players. On top of that we are also poor at getting the elite players, ones like Isco, RVP etc.. who we have been unable to close the deal on. Having money doesn't necessarily make you good in the market, and I think we are frequently mugged off by both buyers and sellers.

 

[mosssideblue]

Why are people panicking about what we spend on him - he looks a great prospect, amortise his fee over the next 6-10 years which is what we are looking at for a 21 year old - FFP is going to get booted out in the courts within 18 months, we are about to make a profit anyway. The level we are on now, giving Everton £30M instead of £20M is like waiting for 1p change when you given a quid to buy something for 99p and anyway, it doesn't matter if we got him for £10M the rag media would still multiply his wages, add performance bonuses, agents fees etc and say we paid £60M

seriously rediculous

 

[toffee balls]

I think he is a Rolls Royce type of a player.

I would love to see him complete his apprenticeship with us and as others have said Yaya staying for another year would be an ideal scenario.

The thought of him slipping in between Silva and Toure has me drooling.

He has the lot for me .

As well as having two great feet he has the physical attributes and speed to succeed at the very highest level.

We are told he is bright and the right personality off the pitch to go with his talent.

I have thought for nearly 12 months now that we would go for him and I will be delighted if the strong links are true.

Injuries are the only negatives I can see at the moment.

If Slur Alex was still around he would be all over him like a rash and that says it all really.

 

[mosssideblue]

I think he is a Rolls Royce type of a player.

I would love to see him complete his apprenticeship with us and as others have said Yaya staying for another year would be an ideal scenario.

The thought of him slipping in between Silva and Toure has me drooling.

He has the lot for me .

As well as having two great feet he has the physical attributes and speed to succeed at the very highest level.

We are told he is bright and the right personality off the pitch to go with his talent.

I have thought for nearly 12 months now that we would go for him and I will be delighted if the strong links are true.

Injuries are the only negatives I can see at the moment.

If Slur Alex was still around he would be all over him like a rash and that says it all really.

Kin L mate. Do you have a picture of him in your bedroom. :)

Your post would have read better last season (still OTT mind). This year, he wouldn't make our bench, so how you come to your assessment of him, I find baffling

 

[malg]

Overrated. That's not opinion, that's fact......

 

[LoveCity]

If Slur Alex was still around he would be all over him like a rash and that says it all really.

Ferguson had the smarts to avoid Rodwell, who was playing a lot better between injuries for Everton than Barkley is. And that was after Rodwell was named man of the match against United. Ferguson wouldn't touch this year's Barkley and would look at players like Kane and Stones instead, who are actually playing well.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Overrated. That's not opinion, that's fact......

I agree with you Mr Benitez but then I must be a sheep for not following those who rate him

 

[Leech]

Think he'd be a good buy, but more so for the future, similar to Mangala.

First season or two he wouldn't look value for money, not necessarily even a starter but he has the potential to be a world top 10 player and given his current understandable stagnation in form at Everton wouldn't represent as much of an outlay as he might previously.