Rotherham child abuse scandal

[tidyman]

I don't understand why it is even a council matter.

If someone is raped, it is a police matter. And if it is proved that rapes were reported to the police and not investigated, serious questions need to be asked. The main one being which person or persons actually gave the order for these alleged serious crimes not to be investigated?

I'm not sure what exactly but I would imagine that person(s) has probably committed a criminal offence themselves by preventing justice being served.

 

[Mike N]

Witness the usual feeble-minded council (and police) employees who'd rather keep schtum about those they are paid to protect than offend some filthy rapists.

If happens every fcukin time. And the standard script is spewed out: " we apologise for letting people down...lessons to be learned....stop it ever happening again...new procedures in place .... everything's tickety-boo since that report.... blah, blah, blah".

Until the spotlight is off them and the little darlings can return to accruing their pensions in peace.

This is a very niave point of view. We are talking about Britain with all its hang-ups and over-sensitivity of accused racism. Staff with very little power, and a mortgage to pay, would have been wary of making accusations.

Would you have the balls to say something, even if you might be wrong and out of a job?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I don't understand why it is even a council matter.

If someone is raped, it is a police matter. And if it is proved that rapes were reported to the police and not investigated, serious questions need to be asked. The main one being which person or persons actually gave the order for these alleged serious crimes not to be investigated?

I'm not sure what exactly but I would imagine that person(s) has probably committed a criminal offence themselves by preventing justice being served.

A lot of the girls were "under the care" of Social services and the Local Authority.

 

[dazdon]

Would you have the balls to say something, even if you might be wrong and out of a job?

If I found out that adults were shagging kids and threatening them with guns?

Yes yes and yes again.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Witness the usual feeble-minded council (and police) employees who'd rather keep schtum about those they are paid to protect than offend some filthy rapists.

If happens every fcukin time. And the standard script is spewed out: " we apologise for letting people down...lessons to be learned....stop it ever happening again...new procedures in place .... everything's tickety-boo since that report.... blah, blah, blah".

Until the spotlight is off them and the little darlings can return to accruing their pensions in peace.

This is a very niave point of view. We are talking about Britain with all its hang-ups and over-sensitivity of accused racism. Staff with very little power, and a mortgage to pay, would have been wary of making accusations.

Would you have the balls to say something, even if you might be wrong and out of a job?

It is about time that some if the people who didn't have the balls to stand and be counted spent a bit of time in Prison - never mind lose their jobs!

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Witness the usual feeble-minded council (and police) employees who'd rather keep schtum about those they are paid to protect than offend some filthy rapists.

If happens every fcukin time. And the standard script is spewed out: " we apologise for letting people down...lessons to be learned....stop it ever happening again...new procedures in place .... everything's tickety-boo since that report.... blah, blah, blah".

Until the spotlight is off them and the little darlings can return to accruing their pensions in peace.

This is a very niave point of view. We are talking about Britain with all its hang-ups and over-sensitivity of accused racism. Staff with very little power, and a mortgage to pay, would have been wary of making accusations.

Would you have the balls to say something, even if you might be wrong and out of a job?

Yes
So the question is would you?

 

[The Flash]

This is the problem with the multi-agency approach that has been adopted. I have witnessed first-hand the shoddiness of Manchester's "Project Trailblazer" and how all that seems to happen is lots of meetings about certain vulnerable kids without anyone committing to anything because it's their budget that's affected. And so the kids fall through the cracks.

 

[tidyman]

I don't understand why it is even a council matter.

If someone is raped, it is a police matter. And if it is proved that rapes were reported to the police and not investigated, serious questions need to be asked. The main one being which person or persons actually gave the order for these alleged serious crimes not to be investigated?

I'm not sure what exactly but I would imagine that person(s) has probably committed a criminal offence themselves by preventing justice being served.

A lot of the girls were "under the care" of Social services and the Local Authority.

Fair enough. I suppose I should have gone to the trouble of reading some of the links before I dived in with an opinion.

It obviously is a council matter then.

But I still think if you ignore the first line, the rest of my post is valid.

 

[Rascal]

I actually thought this is old news. Its been reported before im sure. So the old cynic in me as ever is thinking is this an establishment attempt to deflect attention from there collective wrong doing?

Please dont take me wrong me here as i find what any of these people do is abhorrent and all should be punished equally, but what better way to deflect attention from the elite in the press than turn the focus onto Pakistani criminal gangs.



I also hate what i have seen across social media tonight blaming Lefty do gooders for whats happened. As a person of the left does anyone of you seriously think i condone such behaviour? Do any of you seriously think that law that ensures racial equality leads to paedophillia? A peodophile is a peodophile regardless of law, race, class or any other possible distinction you can make.


This country is in a dark place at the moment, but we must remember that the vast overwhelming majority of people of whatever colour creed or class are decent honest people and the last thing we need as a nation is to start haranguing certain groups in society for crimes they have not been associated with.

Catch the criminals and punish them regardless of who they are, but remember as you are the vast majority of people are good people

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I don't understand why it is even a council matter.

If someone is raped, it is a police matter. And if it is proved that rapes were reported to the police and not investigated, serious questions need to be asked. The main one being which person or persons actually gave the order for these alleged serious crimes not to be investigated?

I'm not sure what exactly but I would imagine that person(s) has probably committed a criminal offence themselves by preventing justice being served.

A lot of the girls were "under the care" of Social services and the Local Authority.

Fair enough. I suppose I should have gone to the trouble of reading some of the links before I dived in with an opinion.

It obviously is a council matter then.

But I still think if you ignore the first line, the rest of my post is valid.

You are right that the police have a lot of responsibility for these crimes !