Bluesince1979
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It didnt collapse the scrum on this occasion?
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Rugby World Cup 2023
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It didnt collapse the scrum on this occasion?
Like most ref's, he didn't have a clue as to what was going on. The SA did a step over every time when Sinckler came on. Then you had the blatant boring in by Koch for the penalty.
Still, from being written off, to one dodgy penalty away from the final.
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Should use spider cam footage from above for all scrums, you can see quite clearly then what is happening .
For the uninitiated, like me, what's a step over and what is the boring in? I watch scrums and can never tell who has committed a foul.Like most ref's, he didn't have a clue as to what was going on. The SA did a step over every time when Sinckler came on. Then you had the blatant boring in by Koch for the penalty.
Still, from being written off, to one dodgy penalty away from the final.
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You're supposed to push straight, boring in means they push inwards towards the opposing hooker. Ireland's Porter does it all the time but is clever about it, got found out in the NZ game though & penalised quite a few timesFor the uninitiated, like me, what's a step over and what is the boring in? I watch scrums and can never tell who has committed a foul.
Seems like the correct call.
If you look closely, their hooker seems to slip and then puts his knee down, before Genge did. Perhaps the ref was only looking at our players!
For the uninitiated, like me, what's a step over and what is the boring in? I watch scrums and can never tell who has committed a foul.
The step over is when they pack down and shift their pack usually onto the oppositions tight head (Kyle Sinckler). They all move left slightly, its actually not hard for a ref to detect, if the said ref has eyes in the back of his head. The boring in is usually done by the tight head and if done correctly obscures the hooker's vision on the put in and and can stop them striking (hooking the ball back).
The boring in, is no where near as dangerous as the step over, but its still illegal, but once again the ref's have very little working knowledge as few if any have ever played regularly in the front row.
If you look closely, their hooker seems to slip and then puts his knee down, before Genge did. Perhaps the ref was only looking at our players!
You don't say!
Seems like the correct call.
That just confirms what a crap decision it was by the ref.
Just saw that last scrum again, I get why he gave the penalty now, Genge does put his knee down and then drives across. It’s smart from SA too on the blind side but the moment he puts his knee down, it was only going one way.
For safety reasons he should have reset the scrum