Running thread

shevtheblue said:
Any tips for a non-runner? The only running i've ever done is a few mins on the treadmill (and hate every time i do it) but my mate swears by it and i'm willing to give anything a go. Do you ease yourself into it or just get your trainers on and fuckin' peg it? How do you stop your legs from aching (mine have always ached since i did a charity run as a high schooler) and do you just fight through a stitch or stop running? Sorry for the noob questions, if the best tip is to just not do it then i'm good with that too :D
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Just start with short distances and remember the most important thing about running: you get the best results by running SLOWLY. I would go out a few times a week for just a few minutes at a very easy pace (not much faster than walking). Only build up the distance very gradually. Give yourself recovery days to start with.

I don't agree with the poster about 'always' stretching; there's no decent evidence to support that when you're doing easy/gentle runs. Certainly don't do static stretches; they have been found to do more harm than good. If and when you get into harder runs, you then might want to think about warming up gently for a mile or two and doing a few dynamic stretches. That would also be the time to get your gait analysed (decent, independent sports shops often offer this service) and invest in some good running shoes.

I do agree about getting off the treadmill - get yourself outside.
 
I'm in Manchester for a few days so doing a bit of running around here. Did a few miles around Ladybarn Park and Fog Lane Park this morning. Would be interested in any recommendations for other routes in that area.
 
taleofbluehalves said:
Hi I’d get some decent trainers ASICS are pretty good. Start with small runs. 1,2 ,3 miles and build up. Always stretch and warm up. Make sure you stretch and gently jog afterwards to warm down and get rid of the lactic. Find someone to run with as it keeps you motivated. Running outside beats a treadmill every time for me.
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I have loads of good trainers for running as i do go to the gym quite a bit, but just never been into running. Think i must live in some sort of running hotspot in the Heaton's as there's runners going past my house all throughout the day.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Just start with short distances and remember the most important thing about running: you get the best results by running SLOWLY. I would go out a few times a week for just a few minutes at a very easy pace (not much faster than walking). Only build up the distance very gradually. Give yourself recovery days to start with.

I don't agree with the poster about 'always' stretching; there's no decent evidence to support that when you're doing easy/gentle runs. Certainly don't do static stretches; they have been found to do more harm than good. If and when you get into harder runs, you then might want to think about warming up gently for a mile or two and doing a few dynamic stretches. That would also be the time to get your gait analysed (decent, independent sports shops often offer this service) and invest in some good running shoes.

I do agree about getting off the treadmill - get yourself outside.
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Cheers Stu, i live on the otherside of a golf course and there seems to be runners going through that all the time. Don't see the fun in worrying about being smashed by a golf ball myself tbh, so will probably just run around that!
 
shevtheblue said:
Any tips for a non-runner? The only running i've ever done is a few mins on the treadmill (and hate every time i do it) but my mate swears by it and i'm willing to give anything a go. Do you ease yourself into it or just get your trainers on and fuckin' peg it? How do you stop your legs from aching (mine have always ached since i did a charity run as a high schooler) and do you just fight through a stitch or stop running? Sorry for the noob questions, if the best tip is to just not do it then i'm good with that too :D
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I started from nothing too. I'm 37. I got myself a pair of trainers via my health insurance scheme, installed Strava, and I've done 8 runs that went like this;

Run 1: Planned a 2 mile route with google maps. Set off too fast (6 minute mile) and at the 1 mile mark I was suffering and ground to a sudden halt. Breathing wasn't right and legs felt knackered. Kept trying to run the rest of the route, but stopped every minute of so. Mile 2 was then twice as long and made up of walking/running. It was a little demoralising but try you best.
Run 2: 3 days later. Planned just 1 mile, concentrated on breathing and running style. Did this at 10.30/mi pace.
Run 3: 5 days after run 2, ran 1.4 miles. at a good 9.36/mi pace for the first mile.
Run 4: 6 days after run 3, I felt my pace was slow in general. Read about running faster over short distances, so ran 1 mile. Pace was 8.29/mi - felt good.
Run 5: 3 days after, I planned an ambitious 2 mile run. I was going into hospital and wouldn't run for at least a month. Deliberately slowed my pace and ran it in 11.48/mi pace. What felt good was seeing that I'd run for 24 mins straight.
Run 6. 6 weeks later, I'd healed up from my op. Went and did just 1 mile to test the waters. Did it in 10 mins dead on.
Run 7. 9 days later decided to jump straight up to 2 miles but on grass. Ended up completing 2.2 miles at 11.10/mi pace.
Run 8. Today (4 days after last run). Switched to pavement running again doing a 2.1 mile run. Pace was 10.30/mi pace.

So there you go. 8 runs between 1 and 2 miles.

The 1 mile run times went like this:
6min
10.30min
9.36min
8.29min
10.min

My 2 mile run times are:
11.48/mi pace
11.10/mi pace (on grass)
10.30/mi pace

So my plan now is 2-3 runs per week. Ideally running a 3, a 2, and a 1 mile. The 1 mile will be used to perform a run as fast as I can. The 3/2 mile to build my endurance and lose weight.
 
Manchester1894 said:
I started from nothing too. I'm 37. I got myself a pair of trainers via my health insurance scheme, installed Strava, and I've done 8 runs that went like this;

Run 1: Planned a 2 mile route with google maps. Set off too fast (6 minute mile) and at the 1 mile mark I was suffering and ground to a sudden halt. Breathing wasn't right and legs felt knackered. Kept trying to run the rest of the route, but stopped every minute of so. Mile 2 was then twice as long and made up of walking/running. It was a little demoralising but try you best.
Run 2: 3 days later. Planned just 1 mile, concentrated on breathing and running style. Did this at 10.30/mi pace.
Run 3: 5 days after run 2, ran 1.4 miles. at a good 9.36/mi pace for the first mile.
Run 4: 6 days after run 3, I felt my pace was slow in general. Read about running faster over short distances, so ran 1 mile. Pace was 8.29/mi - felt good.
Run 5: 3 days after, I planned an ambitious 2 mile run. I was going into hospital and wouldn't run for at least a month. Deliberately slowed my pace and ran it in 11.48/mi pace. What felt good was seeing that I'd run for 24 mins straight.
Run 6. 6 weeks later, I'd healed up from my op. Went and did just 1 mile to test the waters. Did it in 10 mins dead on.
Run 7. 9 days later decided to jump straight up to 2 miles but on grass. Ended up completing 2.2 miles at 11.10/mi pace.
Run 8. Today (4 days after last run). Switched to pavement running again doing a 2.1 mile run. Pace was 10.30/mi pace.

So there you go. 8 runs between 1 and 2 miles.

The 1 mile run times went like this:
6min
10.30min
9.36min
8.29min
10.min

My 2 mile run times are:
11.48/mi pace
11.10/mi pace (on grass)
10.30/mi pace

So my plan now is 2-3 runs per week. Ideally running a 3, a 2, and a 1 mile. The 1 mile will be used to perform a run as fast as I can. The 3/2 mile to build my endurance and lose weight.
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Have you done any fartlekking? I’m going to do a bit of that to get quicker.
 
taleofbluehalves said:
Have you done any fartlekking? I’m going to do a bit of that to get quicker.
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I’d recommend it; fast between 2 lampposts, then slow/recover between next 3 - do this during the second half of your run - for first half, just run as per normal. It deffo pays dividends
 
chesterbells said:
I’d recommend it; fast between 2 lampposts, then slow/recover between next 3 - do this during the second half of your run - for first half, just run as per normal. It deffo pays dividends
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Sounds good. Normally do 5-6k so maybe do a shorter run! How long until
you reaped the benefits?
 
taleofbluehalves said:
24.53 so 4 seconds better than last week. Not a stellar effort but at least better.
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Is that for ParkRun? I used to do half marathons but nowadays just do ParkRuns plus some cycling, and the difference is massive. Previously do 3 runs a week: 10 mile, 6 mile and 3 miles, and the weight fell off. Now, only doing parkrun distance 2x week and a bike ride, none of that happens any more! I deffo need to get back to doing a 90 min run at least once a week.
 
taleofbluehalves said:
Just finished roughly sane as last week based on my timing so hopefully quicker on official time. 24.58 on my timer. How about you @inchy14 @worsleyweb ?
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Didn’t do park run this morning mate, went out and did 22 miles on the bike (1:30) then ran 10k (48:45)

Was originally going to do 30 on the bike then Heaton Park Park Run but got a puncture so had to finish the bike earlier than planned.

Next week will hopefully go to plan.

As for starting off from scratch, I’d suggest 2-3 miles to begin with, find what’s a comfortable pace then build from there. I certainly wouldn’t be splashing out on expensive trainers, I just get what ever is cheap in the Nike outlet store.
Takes time to find your rhythm, vary your routes though, makes it much more enjoyable, add hills as they’ll help with speed too.
 
taleofbluehalves said:
Sounds good. Normally do 5-6k so maybe do a shorter run! How long until
you reaped the benefits?
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So that’s what, about a half hour run? Depending on route, i’d deffo do it for the last 15 mins if you can. In terms of benefits, I guess it depends how you measure, but I found in 10K runs & halfs I could respond to changes in pace from other runners, or if the road inclined. I also found it made me more robust in terms of not picking up injuries, but I can’t scientifically prove that. I’d say you’d get some benefit after about 6 weeks if you were doing it one run a week.
 
chesterbells said:
Is that for ParkRun? I used to do half marathons but nowadays just do ParkRuns plus some cycling, and the difference is massive. Previously do 3 runs a week: 10 mile, 6 mile and 3 miles, and the weight fell off. Now, only doing parkrun distance 2x week and a bike ride, none of that happens any more! I deffo need to get back to doing a 90 min run at least once a week.
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Yes Park Run. I do a couple of 5-6 mile runs a week as well.
 
inchy14 said:
Didn’t do park run this morning mate, went out and did 22 miles on the bike (1:30) then ran 10k (48:45)

Was originally going to do 30 on the bike then Heaton Park Park Run but got a puncture so had to finish the bike earlier than planned.

Next week will hopefully go to plan.

As for starting off from scratch, I’d suggest 2-3 miles to begin with, find what’s a comfortable pace then build from there. I certainly wouldn’t be splashing out on expensive trainers, I just get what ever is cheap in the Nike outlet store.
Takes time to find your rhythm, vary your routes though, makes it much more enjoyable, add hills as they’ll help with speed too.
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Still that’s a good intensive workout.
 
chesterbells said:
So that’s what, about a half hour run? Depending on route, i’d deffo do it for the last 15 mins if you can. In terms of benefits, I guess it depends how you measure, but I found in 10K runs & halfs I could respond to changes in pace from other runners, or if the road inclined. I also found it made me more robust in terms of not picking up injuries, but I can’t scientifically prove that. I’d say you’d get some benefit after about 6 weeks if you were doing it one run a week.
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Cheers sorry meant 5-6 mile run twice a week.
 
As some of you may be aware i'm attempting my first ever Triathlon end of September.

I'm hoping to raise some funds for a friends charity who's son committed suicide last year aged only 24. The funds are being raised to help under privileged children learn to play musical instruments, something he was gifted at.

The Matthew Nicholls Foundation
The Matthew Nicholls Foundation has been set up by Matt’s parents, Rachel and Rob after Matt, aged 24, completely unexpectedly took his own life in July 2017. As a naturally gifted musician Matthew had the very best opportunities that enabled him to excel. The reality though for many children is wildly different. Even if they are inherently gifted, this talent can easily go to waste if it is not identified and supported during those crucial early years. With educational challenges, we are in real danger of losing a generation of musicians. The Matthew Nicholls Foundation has been established to enable young people to develop their musical abilities. The Foundation believes that all young people should have the opportunity to foster musical understanding and skills for the benefit of themselves and the wider community. In particular the Foundation aims to support young people who have the motivation to further their skills but have significant financial and/or social difficulties that are a barrier to the further development of their musical abilities. We are working in collaboration with local services and professional music educationalists to ensure that young people with life challenges and musical potential benefit from money raised.

All donations no matter how small would be greatly appreciated.

Link below.

https://www.justgiving.com/fundrais...&utm_source=postoffice&utm_term=1534765375078

Thanks.

Inchy.
 
Did a 2.2mi run at the weekend and woke up this morning (attack the day mood n that) and went on a 2.5mi route. Hamstrings were still sore, and felt tired straight away, but felt alright a mile in. At the 1.7mi mark I was thinking about random stuff and my legs suddenly stopped. I wasn't out of breath, I didn't have pain in legs. They just stopped suddenly. Couldn't get going again, and didn't want to injure myself as I was sore beforehand and want to get out again soon. What is this phenomena and is it common? (Bar laziness lol)
 
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