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blueinsa
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Not a peep when Russia handed hacked/leaked documents to Corbyn on the NHS.......not a peep.
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grunge
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Not a peep when Russia handed hacked/leaked documents to Corbyn on the NHS.......not a peep.
It was fobbed off as being fake as it came from russia at the time. Raab last week said it was proof of russian interfeerance in the 2019 election.
stonerblue
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Still hung up on Corbyn?Not a peep when Russia handed hacked/leaked documents to Corbyn on the NHS.......not a peep.
Not arsed that the people you voted for duped you, lied to you and are now taking the piss?
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blueinsa
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Still hung up on Corbyn?
Not arsed that the people you voted for duped you, lied to you and are now taking the piss?
You miss the point.
Im hung up on the lack of memory some have on here.
smudgedj
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Wait until they discover Cummings is fluent in Russian.Gotta chuckle at some of these comments, 'Brainwashed Masses' is a
fucking corker.
Ancient Citizen
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Lol, the brainwashed masses never do what you want do they, I feelStop being such a snowflake sweetheart, go back to filling in your Cummings/ Johnson panini sticker book .
your pain.
Saddleworth2
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From who? It certainly made the Government sit up and take notice.Not a peep when Russia handed hacked/leaked documents to Corbyn on the NHS.......not a peep.
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From who? It certainly made the Government sit up and take notice.
Certain very vocal posters right now on here that's who.
Saddleworth2
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That’s why all those that were claiming Russia has always tried to interfere are missing the point entirely. Their use of social media is something that has only emerged in the last few years.Dear oh dear oh dear - listening to a desperate Tory MP on Sheilagh Fogerty. She claims she was a barrister before becoming an MP specialising in immigration cases. She says that the govt are cracking down on Russian oligarchs and cites the case of the woman who was spending a fortune in Harrods who couldn't prove where her wealth came from so has had her house taken off her and is awaiting deportation back to Russia. I am sure that will worry the woman because she is actually from Azerbaijan - so much for the immigration specialist claim.
She also said that the Russia report highlights issues going back 20 years or more. Given that it highlights interference by using on line platforms then I doubt Russia was keen on using dial up broadband until the mid to late 2000's, Twitter barely existed until the late 2000's, there was no Tik Tok, Snapchat or Instagram - simple facts are that the exponential growth in cyber interference by Russia was enabled by the growth in fast broad band and a plethora of platforms on which to exert their influence - thats all been in a decade when the Tories were in power and as we know for the report they were happy to just take the cash and look the other way.
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blueinsa
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That’s why all those that were claiming Russia has always tried to interfere are missing the point entirely. Their use of social media is something that has only emerged in the last few years.
Social media has been used since Obama won the presidential election off the back of it.
Honestly i think some live in some parallel universe at times where social media messages they like and are aimed at them are some how there by the grace of God or by magic whilst something they dont like is because some bad state actor is in play.
Its fucking ridiculous mate.
Everyone in politics is literally "at it".
Saddleworth2
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Obama had a legal and justified reason to campaign for himself don’t you think. As does trump. The Russians, maybe not so much other than in their own elections. Oh wait.Social media has been used since Obama won the presidential election off the back of it.
Honestly i think some live in some parallel universe at times where social media messages they like and are aimed at them are some how there by the grace of God or by magic whilst something they dont like is because some bad state actor is in play.
Its fucking ridiculous mate.
Everyone in politics is literally "at it".
dave_blue12
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
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blueinsa
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Obama had a legal and justified reason to campaign for himself don’t you think. As does trump. The Russians, maybe not so much other than in their own elections. Oh wait.
Did vote leave not have a lawful and valid reason to campaign?
I've yet to hear any solid evidence bad state actors paid for the vote leave social media campaign im afraid?
Saddleworth2
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So that has shifted the argument from Obama vs Russia but ok.Did vote leave not have a lawful and valid reason to campaign?
I've yet to hear any solid evidence bad state actors paid for the vote leave social media campaign im afraid?
no, there is no public proven evidence. There are multiple allegations that in the opinion of the security committee warranted an intelligence lead review to prove or disprove interference. Even if they had done that and prove interference there is zero chance they would have been able to estimate the impact on the vote of the referendum. To me the important point is not trying to unpick the referendum result. That is done and dusted. The point is to prove and mitigate further foreign interference. My own view is that this is a lesser problem than interference from our own media and that would be greater priority to go after. But that’s for a different thread.
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So that has shifted the argument from Obama vs Russia but ok.
no, there is no public proven evidence. There are multiple allegations that in the opinion of the security committee warranted an intelligence lead review to prove or disprove interference. Even if they had done that and prove interference there is zero chance they would have been able to estimate the impact on the vote of the referendum. To me the important point is not trying to unpick the referendum result. That is done and dusted. The point is to prove and mitigate further foreign interference. My own view is that this is a lesser problem than interference from our own media and that would be greater priority to go after. But that’s for a different thread.
Agree with that and I've given my answer to the issue.
Ban all political adverts and campaigns on social media. Its the wild west, its a cess pit.
No one can complain then.
Saddleworth2
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Completely agree.Agree with that and I've given my answer to the issue.
Ban all political adverts and campaigns on social media. Its the wild west, its a cess pit.
No one can complain then.
bluethrunthru
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
The thing with it is he insults peoples intelligence making such a statement in the knowledge that plenty will take it as gospel
west didsblue
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
That Boris Johnson quote could just as easily have come from Trump with the same level of credibility.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Don’t you just love the smell of corruption in the morning
Two Tory ministers on the Intelligence Watchdog Committee accepting donations from the Russians
YCMIU
dave_blue12
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Two Tory ministers on the Intelligence Watchdog Committee accepting donations from the Russians
YCMIU
Putin's little helpers are everywhere. Many are so stupid they are completely unaware but others are happy to line their pockets and hold onto power.
Our country is in a very sad state and this is just the beginning. I believe we have much further to fall before there will be any hope of climbing out of the black hole we are falling down.