Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Metal Biker]

Question to all the financial bods out there; with the Russian Stock Market closed, how long can the country effectively run before they face financial collapse if they're not trading?

Is this going to come down to a waiting game?

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Question to all the financial bods out there; with the Russian Stock Market closed, how long can the country effectively run before they face financial collapse if they're not trading?

Is this going to come down to a waiting game?

This this was/is always going to be the case.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

No, we get a confused, patchy sense of what is happening on the ground. I may be cautiously optimistic, but this conflict is by no means over, hence the caution.

But you cannot take a country the size of Ukraine, with a population of 45 million with 200k troops. Especially as they are facing a well equipped modern force of comparable size in the conflict area. The Russians can capture a city here and there, but is that city under their control and subdued? How many troops do they need to station per city? What is the overall strategic plan here? Is eventually levelling every city one by one going to secure any thing other than eternal enmity? Can Russia sustain the current level of losses even accounting for Ukraine over estimating them?

And that’s not even taking into account sanctions starting to bite.

US General Petraeus said the same about holding Ukraine last week - not enough troops, very little local sympathy. Complete nightmare.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I honestly don’t believe that ‘the people’ will rise up - if there is a leadership change, it will come from within the inner circle. Hopefully that happens.

It won’t. The people are broadly in favour apparently and his inner circle look shit scared of him. This will only end when Putin wants it to end. How and when that will be, who knows.

 

[domalino]

Russia has more boots on the ground

I would have expected someone who lives in Ukraine to know that Russia's invasion force of 180-200,000 is significantly less than Ukraine's 215,000 active army + 200,000 called up trained reserves. We won't mention the 60,000 new territorial guards as they're not much more than a last resort although they are freeing up trained soldiers to go elsewhere.

 

[Nascent Blues]

Putin seems to want conflict with the west. This is not looking good at all.

If only this guy was still around...

 

[KS55]

Aren't nuclear submarines using small nuclear plants?

And seriously, no communist ever invented anything?

1. Er...not big enough to power a town.
2. Who said that?
Be serious.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I would have expected someone who lives in Ukraine to know that Russia's invasion force of 180-200,000 is significantly less than Ukraine's 215,000 active army + 200,000 called up trained reserves. We won't mention the 60,000 new territorial guards as they're not much more than a last resort although they are freeing up trained soldiers to go elsewhere.

I believe Russia has 900k active military personnel.

 

[Vic]

Was answering what a British soldier would do. Iirc despite Smith's acquital the principle concerning standing orders was established. Still the law here.

It didn't stop Bloody Sunday. Let's not get too righteous over this. I don't even know if Russian soldiers have a legal defence (in Russian law) against disobeying an unlawful order (in an army where the "commander in chief" poisons people).

 

[Metal Biker]

I believe Russia has 900k active military personnel.

At it again, I see!