Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BlueAnorak]

Peace talks looking good.
Russia makes 6 demands.
4 easy, neutrality of Ukraine, certain weapons to be scrapped that could attack russia, clamp down on nazis in Ukraine, protection of Russian speakers.
2 tricky ones, semi independence of donbass and crimea going to russia.

That's a laugh, the Russian government is Nazi by definition. Ultra Nationalist, big business co-oped to serve the sate, no freedoms, massive GDP proportion spent on the military. etc

 

[willipp]

Sorry if already posted... Well worth a watch... I hope that this gets to be seen by Russians

Wow thats powerful stuff. Hope the people of Russia get to actually see it and understand whats really happening.

 

[Elbow beards]

That's a laugh, the Russian government is Nazi by definition. Ultra Nationalist, big business co-oped to serve the sate, massive GDP proportion spent on the military.

I know, I thought the same, oh the irony.

 

[crazyg]

friday teatime?

Make it earlier.
There are no Russian teams left in the draws for the European competitions this morning.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

6 cruise missiles fired at Lviv from submarine in the Black Sea.
2 were destroyed whilst still in the air.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

With a bit of luck, Putin will be out of office due to his invasion. Unless Putin loses power and a much more moderate leader emerges, European politics are going to be a mess for decades to come, and a possible spark point for unintended nuclear warfare.

I've mentioned this interview previously, but I'll repeat it here. It offers fascinating insight into the Ukraine invasion:

Interview with Michael Kimmage who oversaw the US State Department's Ukraine-Russian portfolio under Obama.

This is a long podcast-based interview but well worth the time listening to.

https://www.npr.org/player/embed/1084181606/1084264181

 

[BlueAnorak]

Are we watching the same programme?

Plus she's just pointed out the risk that Putin might deliberately wreck nuclear reactors in Ukraine and the impact would be felt across Europe and across Ukraine, so she wants western powers to come and protect the reactors. No-one asked, "But if he knows we're coming, might that not prompt Putin to destroy the reactors?" Never mind nuclear war, a Russian retreat with a scorched earth policy on nuclear reactors would not be good for Ukraine or anyone.

The prevailing wind is West to East with an occasional anticyclonic rotation north over Moscow, St Petersburg, Scandinavia and back round over the North German Plain.
Seems a good idea for self harm.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Let's not forget who signed a pact with the Nazis and also invaded Poland in 1939

Hi Basil ;-)

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Sorry if already posted... Well worth a watch... I hope that this gets to be seen by Russians

Where oh where are such Republicans now? Love Arnold - class act.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

That's a laugh, the Russian government is Nazi by definition. Ultra Nationalist, big business co-oped to serve the sate, massive GDP proportion spent on the military.

I think the subtext is not so much anti-nazi, but that the Nazi groups in Ukraine also happen to be ukranian nationalist/anti Russian. Putin would like them wiped out for that reason - that they are Nazis is incidental.