Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I thought he made some decent points tbh. Not ones I necessarily agree with, but I'm secure enough to just shrug my shoulders and move on from those.
The point about undermining the US dollar is a good one. It is a currency in peril at present - I'm sure our American posters are well aware of this. Putin's demand for payment in rubels not only props up his own currency, but is a threat last seen to the dollar when Saddam tried to change the currency oil was traded in just over 20 years ago and we all know how that ended. The attack on the dollar may yet prove to be the 'red line' in terms of a western (US led) military response to events in Ukraine.

 

[Elbow beards]

I thought he made some decent points tbh. Not ones I necessarily agree with, but I'm secure enough to just shrug my shoulders and move on from those.
The point about undermining the US dollar is a good one. It is a currency in peril at present - I'm sure our American posters are well aware of this. Putin's demand for payment in rubels not only props up his own currency, but is a threat last seen to the dollar when Saddam tried to change the currency oil was traded in just over 20 years ago and we all know how that ended. The attack on the dollar may yet prove to be the 'red line' in terms of a western (US led) military response to events in Ukraine.

No he hasn't got a good point, there isn't a cat in hell's chance the rubel will undermine the dollar. It's shit like the rest of his posts.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

No he hasn't got a good point, there isn't a cat in hell's chance the rubel will undermine the dollar. It's shit like the rest of his posts.
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That sort of is the point. It's that absolute primacy that is under threat and history is full of sudden/unlikely collapses in currencies. Added to the problems built up by QE the prospect of a significant portion of energy trading being done in another currency is certainly a threat. As to how significant/what scale I'm comfy enough in my own skin to admit I'm not sure of the answer, but it is at least worth considering.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I thought there were some good points about Putin. But conspiracy theories are a bit far fetched, we couldn’t do anything about them so let’s just do our best to help anyone caught up in poverty

 

[Elbow beards]

That sort of is the point. It's that absolute primacy that is under threat and history is full of sudden/unlikely collapses in currencies. Added to the problems built up by QE the prospect of a significant portion of energy trading being done in another currency is certainly a threat. As to how significant/what scale I'm comfy enough in my own skin to admit I'm not sure of the answer, but it is at least worth considering.

The rubel wasn't even a world player a year ago, now you'd be better off trading in play-doo, no one'll touch it with a barge pole. I don't know how you think it's suddenly gonna threaten sterling, the euro, the yen let alone the dollar.

 

[bluethrunthru]

interesting

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The rubel wasn't a world player a year ago, now you'd be better off trading in play-doo. No one'll touch it with a barge pole, I don't know how you think it's suddenly gonna threaten sterling, the euro, the yen let alone the dollar.

I'm not for a minute suggesting that. The best the rubel can probably hope for is a bit of life support from the silly energy dependency of the Germans. My initial point was that even a decent dent in the global supremacy of the dollar may be enough to tip the scales in favour of a more robust military response to Russia from the west. There will be others on here more knowledgeable than me that can tell us if this added to the other challenges the dollar is facing amount to a real threat.

 

[SWP's back]

There is a School of thought out there, that the whole thing is an elaborate charade to precipitate full on global economic collapse and usher in a New World Order.

I have an open mind on it all.

That’s a stretch.

 

[SWP's back]

To be fair, every war there has ever been there was an ulterior motive from the TPTB

Nothing to do with propaganda.

What is happening in Ukraine is heart breaking, genocide, and very real

My point is there hardly seems any real intent to compromise and deescalate on both sides (US + Russia) does there ?

Hence why i am open minded of the motives of both Russia and United States.

Both countries are controlled by the same banking masters.

War is good for Bankers.

Zero surprise you received only 1 like for this and the previous post, both from the forum troll. I actually feel quite sorry for people that believe this NWO Jew banker bollocks.

 

[SWP's back]

Putin invaded Ukraine fact

He has destroyed the Russian economy .Turned Russia in to a shunned pariah nation.

The damage to Russia economically, will highly likely end up with the collapse not only the Russian economy ,but global economy and US Dollar as reserve currency in due course.

Surely one has to wonder about the reasoning, why did Putin insanely invade his neighbour, and cause so much death and destruction.

I don't see what is wrong in thinking outside the Box. After all the other lies behind recent wars.

It was after all MI5 who introduced Putin to British PM Tony Blair back in the day 1991. He was the darling of the West for a long time. Until he started taking back control of Russia resources from Western leaning Oligarchs.

Putin has a relationship with the Clintons going back decades "Uranium 1 ". Bill receiving $100 000 a pop for giving after dinner speeches to Russian Bankers.

Putin now demanding payment for Russian Gas from Western Europe in Roubles from 1st April. Deliberately undermining US Dollar as the reserve currency.

You have Biden economic policies in United States helping Putin undermine US Dollar. All seems deliberate.

One surely has to wonder if there is an ongoing attempt to collapse the global economy and precipitate a global reset through War. Those that are not aware of UN Agenda 21 long term objective, it is to get the global population down to a sustainable level.

After Iraqi Weapons of Mass destruction, the lies that led to hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and on going birth defects through depleted Uranium. Tony Blair getting Knighted for it.

I am now suspicious of all politicians and there motives.

All wars are bankers wars.

Is it possible US + Russia are working for the same Masters, of course it is. Could the war in Ukraine, and the poor Ukrainians suffering. be deliberate to precipitate a huge depopulation event, and global reset, I think so.

It is healthy not to be a Sheep.

Nurse, he’s at his computer again.