Russian invasion of Ukraine

I'd be obliged if @AlfGreyruinedmyday could delete the quote of my earlier post. I have no issue with the response staying up, but given that I'm posting from a place where I could face prison for posts that are seen to "discredit the military", I want the opportunity to edit my contributions once the debate has moved on so that there's no permanent record of anything on this thread in my name that might endanger me. If a post of mine is quoted, it stays up by default and I can't remove it.
It's been edited.
 
He is not doing nothing , read back a few pages for what he is doing with his investment fund being suspended in russia

Don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing of anything related to our owner. The fact that the contact drumming the message by the press that anything Middle East is bad has now spread to our fans tells a story.
 
I wonder if the concentration in the Donbass will be pivotal now, if the Russians can secure those areas then push out from there instead of fighting on a few fronts they can get their supply lines sorted and then push north better. From what I’ve read the Ukrainian army down there could get encircled if they get wiped out that’s a massive loss and could make defending the rest of the Ukraine very hard.
 
I wonder if the concentration in the Donbass will be pivotal now, if the Russians can secure those areas then push out from there instead of fighting on a few fronts they can get their supply lines sorted and then push north better. From what I’ve read the Ukrainian army down there could get encircled if they get wiped out that’s a massive loss and could make defending the rest of the Ukraine very hard.
Makes it even more important that the Ukrainians get all the military hardware from the west that they're asking for as soon as possible.
 
I wonder if the concentration in the Donbass will be pivotal now, if the Russians can secure those areas then push out from there instead of fighting on a few fronts they can get their supply lines sorted and then push north better. From what I’ve read the Ukrainian army down there could get encircled if they get wiped out that’s a massive loss and could make defending the rest of the Ukraine very hard.

The could then focus on taking the south of the country and cut Ukraine off from the sea. Czech Republic sending tanks is an interesting development if it causes the Russians to start lashing out at NATO countries, if they don’t fuck it and let the Ukrainians have the American’s B2 stealth bombers.
 
From what I’ve read the Ukrainian army down there could get encircled if they get wiped out that’s a massive loss and could make defending the rest of the Ukraine very hard.
Hopefully Ukrainian and Western satellite imagery /intelligence will prevent that from happening.
 
Sense that having failed to conquer the entire country, Putin will now seek to consolidate in Luhansk and Donetsk (with the shale-gas fields) and then slowly work his way west to Transnistria. That would secure a contiguous mass and effectively landlock Ukraine, thus depriving it of access to the sea and force it to surrender its offshore energy riches as well. Putin would then have most of the energy sources in that region, on top of what he already has, and access to the Black Sea as well. He could then leave the EU with the empty husk of whatever remains of Ukraine and the eye-watering cost of rebuilding it, which would take at least a generation. Sure, we Europeans will have weaned ourselves off Russia's energy supplies, but he'll have even greater stores and captive markets in India and China. Hope and pray that I'm wrong and that Ukraine can prevail.
 
I wonder if the concentration in the Donbass will be pivotal now, if the Russians can secure those areas then push out from there instead of fighting on a few fronts they can get their supply lines sorted and then push north better. From what I’ve read the Ukrainian army down there could get encircled if they get wiped out that’s a massive loss and could make defending the rest of the Ukraine very hard.
I think you're given them too much credit mate, they're a fucking shambles.
 

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