Russian invasion of Ukraine

It's a conspiracy theory without evidence used by far right groups to blame the Jews for the holocaust. In exactly the same way Lavrov is doing today.

See for example:


Not quite.

 
Always saw this thread popping up and avoided clicking on it until today, for some reason. Wish I hadn't bothered.

I'm in Russia right now. Married to a Russian woman, who was born in Ukraine and has family dotted all over the place, all against what's happening and desperate for it to be over. Her dad's a military veteran, and he's the sweetest guy I've ever met, a wonderful person who makes wooden toys in his spare time for local kids and brings us homemade soup each week. I've seen Russian soldiers, too, a shocking majority of whom are frightened or naive young men, barely out of their teens, with minimal training, pushed into the military life by the macho culture that prevails over here and the utterly in-tatters economy, most of whom hadn't got a clue where they were even being sent when all this kicked off and/or had been brainwashed into thinking they were helping people. And I've seen parents here who are broken and don't even know that their sons are in Ukraine until they get a call saying that they've been killed.

The whole thing is an atrocity, do not get me wrong, and I am in no way defending any of Russia's actions. I also agree that any scum, soldier or not, that goes around raping, murdering, or torturing people deserves whatever comes to them.

But for me, directing anger at the people at the top who kicked this off and control it is perfectly normal, directing anger at the concept of what's happening is fine, and directing anger at the absolute worst of the worst who have committed rapes and murders during these recent months, absolutely. And of course our thoughts and cares have to be with Ukraine and its people right now. Again, I don't want this at all to sound like "Oh won't someone please think of the poor Russians!"

But to blindly condemn the entire country and to find some kind of joy in seeing people blown to bits, to be unable to think of the human beings, the people who were born and raised here and joined the army thinking they were doing something good and are now caught up in this whole thing, well that's pretty damn sick, too... But to each his own I suppose.

All I hope for is that this ends as soon as possible.

Wouldn't bother replying to this as I won't return to the thread.
I accept all of that and have no time for any voyeuristic video game view of the baddie being blown apart, but although I know the poster won’t reply, what is being done by Russians within the country that apparently are anti war. Those that apparently are aware that what they are being told is bullshit.

Similarly for those outside the country that I’m sure are aware it’s bullshit.
That is why I’m fully supportive of all sanctions including hitting all Sporting events.
I firmly believe that this only stops with pressure from within Russia.
Until it does, then pressure on those within who know better is a valid non violent strategy.
It is morally right as far as I’m concerned.
 
From your link "Despite the claims, Adolf Hitler was not Jewish"

Conspiracy theories never die.

Wow. I hadn't bothered to read that.

Even Lavrov didn't say that. "Jewish Origins", possibly through his illegitimate father and unknown grandfather. But Jews trace their heritage through the maternal line not paternal.

"At the time, though, this picture sufficiently worried Hitler that he had the Nazi law defining Jewishness written to exclude Jesus Christ and himself."

If it was without foundation why would he exclude himself from that law?
 
Add to that it only takes 100 warheads to destroy society as we know it makes it even more scary. https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/it-would-only-take-100-nuclear-weapons-to-destroy-society/

100 warheads across the globe seems a small number to affect the planet, and this I guess is borne out by the relatively "small" estimate of dead if these were unleashed on the most populous region (China), yet the consequential impact would be sufficient to end civilisation and presumably kill billions. As you say, scary :/
 
Israel are losing their shit over that. Not meaning to cause offence here and I'm obviously in no way supporting anything that saggy faced prick lavrov is saying but I thought the Hitler had Jewlish blood theory was a genuine theory. Not proveable or anything but there's enough legit questions about his inbred lineage to suggest its plausible.

That was my understanding too, not sure where I picked up that (dis)information though
 
The discussion of whether Hitler or anyone else has jewish blood only makes sense if there is such a thing in the first place. As far as I am informed different human races simply do not exist in any biological or genetical sense. That means such a discussion is racist per definition. Being jewish means nothing but believing a certain religion, and as such anyone could have jewish ancestors. Jews are no more a special race than us atheists. In my humble opinion we should not even discuss the shite spouted by Lawrow. He has learnt nothing from the Holocaust, and is no better than Hitler and the real nazis was. Fuck him, fuck antisemitism, fuck antisemits and fuck racists.
 

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