Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Do you mean withdraw?

seceded; seceding

Definition of secede​

intransitive verb
: to withdraw from an organization (such as a religious communion or political party or federation)

Definition of SECEDE

to withdraw from an organization (such as a religious communion or political party or federation)… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

seceded; seceding

Definition of secede​

intransitive verb
: to withdraw from an organization (such as a religious communion or political party or federation)

Definition of SECEDE

to withdraw from an organization (such as a religious communion or political party or federation)… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

No, words used in political contexts have different meanings. Nuance is important.

Dictionary definitions do not cover full meanings of words used in legal, political and diplomatic contexts.

States secede from USA but countries need only withdraw from NATO.

Withdrawal from NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

No, words used in political contexts have different meanings. Nuance is important.

Dictionary definitions do not cover full meanings of words used in legal, political and diplomatic contexts.

States secede from USA but countries need only withdraw from NATO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withd...taken, unless this is a UK versus USA nuance.

Secede literally means, "to withdraw from an organization." I can't think of a word more apt for the possibility of Turkey's withdrawal from NATO - literally withdrawal from the NATO organization

The word "secede" in this context leapt immediately to mind and then onto the page.

Perhaps there's a UK versus USA nuance. In the USA, "secede" as I've used it is proper, although "withdraw" is also apt.

If there's a nuance between "withdraw" and "secede," to my mind the former is simply the act of removing an entity from a collective - whereas secede seems more serious - with the nuance that a promise or compact was broken. It's subtle though - but that's my impression.
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As an aside, many years ago I wrote a series of articles for an American computer publication. My articles were accepted and then appeared in print - with my name on them.

I was horrified - however! The magazine's "editor" took many of my sentences and butchered them!

I'm not a perfect writer at all- and can recognize and accept improvements to my prose- but the "improvements" made by that editor were nothing short of criminal!

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Secede literally means to withdraw from an organization. I can't think of a more apt word for the possibility of Turkey's withdrawal from NATO - literally withdrawal from the NATO organization

The word "secede" in this context leapt immediately to mind and then onto the page.

Perhaps there's a UK versus USA nuance. In the USA, secede as I've used it is proper, although "withdraw" is also apt.
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As an aside, many years ago I wrote a series of articles for an American computer publication. My articles were accepted and then appeared in print - with my name on them.

I was horrified - however! The magazine's "editor" took many of my sentences and butchered them!

I'm not a perfect writer at all- and can recognize and accept improvements on my prose- but the "improvements" made by that editor were nothing short of criminal!

The more appropriate word is one you have just used: withdrawal.

Secede means unilateral and often where there is no mechanism for doing so.

France withdrew from NATO and were then readmitted, the UK didn't secede from the European Union.

Secede isn't used at all in the wiki article.

 

[kaz7]

Russians getting their arses kicked in karkiv

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

Secede literally means, "to withdraw from an organization." I can't think of a word more apt for the possibility of Turkey's withdrawal from NATO - literally withdrawal from the NATO organization

The word "secede" in this context leapt immediately to mind and then onto the page.

Perhaps there's a UK versus USA nuance. In the USA, "secede" as I've used it is proper, although "withdraw" is also apt.

If there's a nuance between "withdraw" and "secede," to my mind the former is simply the act of removing an entity from a collective - whereas secede seems more serious - with the nuance that a promise or compact was broken. It's subtle though - but that's my impression.
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As an aside, many years ago I wrote a series of articles for an American computer publication. My articles were accepted and then appeared in print - with my name on them.

I was horrified - however! The magazine's "editor" took many of my sentences and butchered them!

I'm not a perfect writer at all- and can recognize and accept improvements to my prose- but the "improvements" made by that editor were nothing short of criminal!

Erm, organisation and recognise if you please. ;-)

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Erm, organisation and recognise if you please. ;-)

Two countries, divided by a common language :)

 

[Tuearts right boot]

Yup. Semi detached and very Russia friendly

Which is odd because they are supplying the one piece of military hardware to the Ukrainians that is giving russians a good hiding.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

The more appropriate word is one you have just used: withdrawal.

Secede means unilateral and often where there is no mechanism for doing so.

France withdrew from NATO and were then readmitted, the UK didn't secede from the European Union.

Secede isn't used at all in the wiki article.

I used to have the OED in digital form. I can't find the full OED online. I'll see if I still have it somewhere and post back the OED full definition of "secede."

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I used to have the OED in digital form. I can't find the full OED online. I'll see if I still have it somewhere and post back the OED full definition of "secede."

Lol. Missing point. If I could find well respected literature online that used secede when talking about NATO then I would concede.