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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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flook
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I'm not sure this is a serious question. Are you doubting the viability of a German invasion in 1938/39? Perhaps in 38 it was not viable, but once France was subdued it was most definitely achievable. In terms of numbers, at a guess I'd say about a quarter of the number of allied troops who involved in D-Day in 1944I should have noted in my comments on possible invasion of Britain in 1938: How many troops would have been needed and how would they get them there?
Totally agree. We only know history from the view of the person writing it. It is not always the truth.I think Chainberlain gets an unfair press. He needed to stall for time. I don’t think for a minute he felt he’d secured peace in our time. He knew exactly what Hitler was, but wasn’t holding any cards.
(The Spanish Armada springs to mind)
A lot of the Ukraine invasion has been media managed by politicians. Good America, bad Germans, Great Johnson bad Macron.
If Chamberlain had got off that plane and said 'fuck Hitler, we attack at dawn' I might not be typing this now.
Right, whose just shouted 'I wish Hitler had won' come on, own up.
Just to throw a stupid comment in, as a 15 year old I heard/saw a Monty Python sketch that I have basically forgotten but, always remembered the line......thought Germany annexed Sudetenland in 38? I stand to be corrected of course
'I'd like to ask the panel what they would do if they were Hitler....
Reply 'Well I'd annex the Sudetenland'
As a youngster I didn't have a clue what it meant but I have always remembered it.
Elbow beards
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Not heard a lot of what's going on recently. What's the general consensus? Who's winning? Is it somewhat a stalemate now?
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no one gives a fuck by the look of it, they are more interested in world war 2.Not heard a lot of what's going on recently. What's the general consensus? Who's winning? Is it somewhat a stalemate now?
flook
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in your defence, Sudetenland was pretty much never mentioned during school history and is pretty much ignored completely by "popular" TVJust to throw a stupid comment in, as a 15 year old I heard/saw a Monty Python sketch that I have basically forgotten but, always remembered the line......
'I'd like to ask the panel what they would do if they were Hitler....
Reply 'Well I'd annex the Sudetenland'
As a youngster I didn't have a clue what it meant but I have always remembered it.
Serious enough. They would have had to create an army on the west coast of France, provide transport across the channel, maintain supply lines etc etc etc. I don’t think they had the capability of doing that in 38, mainly because at that stage they had no intention of invading us and no prep for that eventuality had been done. Different by 1940, but the military planners recognised the need for air superiority or even supremacy to mount a successful invasion. The Battle of Britain sorted that!I'm not sure this is a serious question. Are you doubting the viability of a German invasion in 1938/39? Perhaps in 38 it was not viable, but once France was subdued it was most definitely achievable. In terms of numbers, at a guess I'd say about a quarter of the number of allied troops who involved in D-Day in 1944
Ultimately, I don’t go along with the revision of Chamberlain’s rep. His judgement was flawed both in the approach at Munich and in his view of what benefit there was to us in our policy which I think was nil.
The Czechs have never forgiven us.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Not heard a lot of what's going on recently. What's the general consensus? Who's winning? Is it somewhat a stalemate now?
Looks like the Russians are focusing everything on the Donbas region and the Ukrainians are countering them. More needless loss of life for a war that looks like world war 1 for either side taking large amounts of ground.
flook
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There is a correlation though isn't there, expansionist dictator, attempts at political appeasement which achieve very little, shuttle diplomacy by european politicians and all the while people are sufferingno one gives a fuck by the look of it, they are more interested in world war 2.