Russian invasion of Ukraine

[johnnytapia]

Unfortunately the vast majority of them only know what Putin wants them to hear.

And lets them hear

 

[urban genie]

The Netherlands
The UAE
The USA
The Peoples Republic Of China
The Congo

"The" is used loads of times to describe loads of different countries, obviously there is some background to this but all I am doing is pointing out that it's not unusual.

It is, but at the present time Ukrainians are asking people don't as to them it de-legitimises their claim to be an independent nation.

 

[bellsouth]

Belarus is a puppet state aiding and abetting Putin

It’s ironic that Putin doesn’t recognise Ukraine as a nation but does for Belarus. Another example of how his words are purely to manipulate the Russian public

 

[Uffa]

EU Council press release from an hour ago:

We condemn in the strongest possible terms Russia's unprecedented military aggression against Ukraine. By its unprovoked and unjustified military actions, Russia is grossly violating international law and undermining European and global security and stability.

We also condemn the involvement of Belarus in this aggression against Ukraine and call on it to abide by its international obligations.

We demand that Russia immediately ceases military actions, unconditionally withdraws all forces and military equipment from the entire territory of Ukraine and fully respects Ukraine's territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence. Such use of force and coercion has no place in the 21st century.

We will meet later today to discuss this blatant aggression and agree in principle on further restrictive measures that will impose massive and severe consequences on Russia for its action, in close coordination with our transatlantic partners.

We deplore the loss of life and humanitarian suffering. The EU and its Member States are ready to urgently provide humanitarian emergency response. We call on Russia and Russia-backed armed formations to respect international humanitarian law.

The EU stands firmly by Ukraine and its people as they face this war. The EU will provide further political, financial and humanitarian assistance.

We are coordinating our response with our neighbours and international partners, including NATO and G7 whose leaders will be meeting shortly.

 

[bluemoon32]

The Netherlands
The UAE
The USA
The Peoples Republic Of China
The Congo

"The" is used loads of times to describe loads of different countries, obviously there is some background to this but all I am doing is pointing out that it's not unusual.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Agreed, but I just think they have stockpiled for this and it's been planned for years.

I disagree. They will have made some provisions for sure but you can't stockpile an entire country with everything they could conceivably need. Let alone for the long haul. Think things like spare parts for BMW's and Mercedes, for example. If Rolls-Royce and GE stop providing aircraft engine parts, his entire domestic aircraft fleet will soon be grounded... and maybe his military fleet.

He is gambling that we won't go this far with sanctions. The $64,000 question is, is he right?

 

[argyle]

Jens Stoltenberg is basically saying NATO won’t be doing anything but condemning Russia’s attack, unless Russia attacks a NATO nation. Only then will we retaliate.

Didn't the powers that be make an agreement with Ukraine that if they agree to give up their nukes that we'd treat them as if they were a NATO member?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I still don't think it would be at all sensible to risk deploying one of our two seaborne assets into a sea in Russia's back yard with a single narrow entry point. Whilst the Turks who control the Bosphorus are part of NATO I wouldn't trust Erdogan as far as I could throw him.

There is always the Baltic sea or the Northern approaches.

 

[bluethrunthru]

“Denazification“of Ukraine what on earth does Putin mean by that denazification ?

Nothing - its made up bollock to justify extreme behaviour - our own Culture Sec recently displayed the same level of bullshit with this speech

In his speech on Monday, Dowden sought to suggest that “woke” ideology was weakening the west at a time when it is facing threats from aggressive states such as Russia. “Rogue states are seeking to challenge the international order. And at the precise point when our resolve ought to be strongest, a pernicious new ideology is sweeping our societies,” Dowden said.

“It goes by many names. In Britain, its adherents sometimes describe themselves as ‘social justice warriors’. They claim to be ‘woke’, awakened to the so-called truths of our societies. But wherever they are found, they pursue a common policy inimical to freedom.”

 

[Scottyboi]