Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Fascinating story of how we got where we are - The rise of Vladimir Putin
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Yep. Got a very strong central/Eastern/South Eastern vibe to it.
In parts almost a lament, then turn to a slighlty uplifting rouse...for some reason I'm feeling/imagining a lot of Czech and East German influence.
Not that I know anything much about music, but there you go.
Thanks - feels like a folk tune keeping the spirit alive.
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Day 283:
Ukraine Invasion Day 283: continuing combat in the east
The major air attacks reported for several days have yet to materialize. Key Takeaways Russia is attempting to capitalize on the Western desire for negotiations to create a dynamic in which Western officials feel obliged to make preemptive concessions...
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Certain nations and groups in the west are pushing for peace at any cost. If they are pandered to, then Russia will rearm and be back in a few years time when western support for Ukraine simply won't be as strong.
The bottom line is that any ceasefire will result in defacto Russian control of that part of Ukraine for ever.
The attitude of the MAGA wing of the Republican party is of most concern (and bizare as support for Ukraine is the cheapest way possible to degrade/defeat a possible enemy) though the left wing Dems are also agitating and getting more impatient.
France (Macron) gives fuck all support to Ukraine - and is still pushing for a chese eating solution, though Germany is finally starting to deliver at a decent rate.
Hungary would rather Russia won so is delaying Scandinavian admitaance to NATO and is delaying EU funfing for Ukraine till its funds are unblocked.
When will people understand that Putin will only negotiate if he is losing badly and will delay /obstruct any process to give him time to go again?
It's all a bit depressing.
More funding and more weapons to Ukraine are the only routes to get a working peace!
The bottom line is that any ceasefire will result in defacto Russian control of that part of Ukraine for ever.
The attitude of the MAGA wing of the Republican party is of most concern (and bizare as support for Ukraine is the cheapest way possible to degrade/defeat a possible enemy) though the left wing Dems are also agitating and getting more impatient.
France (Macron) gives fuck all support to Ukraine - and is still pushing for a chese eating solution, though Germany is finally starting to deliver at a decent rate.
Hungary would rather Russia won so is delaying Scandinavian admitaance to NATO and is delaying EU funfing for Ukraine till its funds are unblocked.
When will people understand that Putin will only negotiate if he is losing badly and will delay /obstruct any process to give him time to go again?
It's all a bit depressing.
More funding and more weapons to Ukraine are the only routes to get a working peace!
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