Russian invasion of Ukraine

[CTID1977]

 

[AlgarveBlu]

There’s more than a good chance that his showboating about Ukraine was primarily as a distraction to his numerous scandals at home. With most people I’d be prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. In Johnson’s case there’s little doubt that it was all about him, although if the end result was that Ukraine received the backing they need it doesn’t really matter. It’s difficult to give credit to Johnson though with his track record on everything else.

That deflection of domestic issues may be a factor but I genuinely believe in Johnson's case that this was his opportunity in his own mind to try and emulate his hero Churchill (we all know he is a fantasist). On the Ukraine issue, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt on his motivations for the way he acted in a very supportive and proactive way in helping Ukraine militarily and offering unequivocal political support to Zelensky on the International stage.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Interesting chart, thanks.

There's always lots of chat about gas, and Europe's dependence on it, but the Russians actually get a lot more cash from oil.

 

[west didsblue]

That deflection of domestic issues may be a factor but I genuinely believe in Johnson's case that this was his opportunity in his own mind to try and emulate his hero Churchill (we all know he is a fantasist). On the Ukraine issue, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt on his motivations for the way he acted in a very supportive and proactive way in helping Ukraine militarily and offering unequivocal political support to Zelensky on the International stage.

Agree with most of that. Whether his motives were about stroking his own ego or a distraction from domestic scandals or both and the fact it was the right thing to do are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

 

[Citizen Mike]

It beggars belief mate. When the Russians had high morale and equipment that was in plentiful supply and working against a Ukrainian army that had heart but let’s be honest little else in the way of equipment to match the Russians they got their arses handed to them. Now they are up against a far more mobilised, motivated and equipped Ukrainian army it won’t suddenly be any easier. The Russians are learning by all accounts but I can’t see them breaking the Ukrainian lines to a point it fundamentally changes the outcome of this war, the Ukrainians on the other hand I think will be able to. The Russian army simply isn’t mobile enough and any build up of force will be plainly obvious to the west who will tell the Ukrainians.

Unfortunately a lot of people are dying to one man’s pride.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Donetsk. The Russians seem to be making limited gains at the moment and stepping up the fighting. I'm wondering what happens if Bakhmut falls?

 

[Tuearts right boot]

An interesting watch.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

If Zelensky crosses his fingers behind his back when he signs it doesn’t count

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Is @SPIDERBOY ok, not seen him post for a day or so?

Haha,im fine mate....was in Sunderland as my niece was having her daughter christened.....and them mackems like their shots....fuck me.
Anyway......Russian ammo depot hit near Berdyansk Airport,Zaporizhzhia Region.
Same region,Ukrainian forces attack from Mala Tokmachka direction towards Novopokrovka.
Russian base and quite a few positions hit in Donetsk Region.
Kuzemivka,Luhansk Region still under pressure from Ukrainian forces.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[CTID1977]

It will be interesting to see what happens with Donetsk. The Russians seem to be making limited gains at the moment and stepping up the fighting. I'm wondering what happens if Bakhmut falls?

there's around 10+ more towns like Bakhmut in this region

 

[BlueAnorak]

Most likely by far is that both are lying.

Ha ha. Both can't be lying in this instance though.
Perhaps this is a quantum physics thought experiemt something like Shrodinger's Cat but Shrodinger's Politician telling a lie / not telling a lie (ather than poisoning the cat).