Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BlueAnorak]

Loved this John Sweeney post from Kyiv the other day:

 

[BlueAnorak]

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Looks like russian officials not heeding their own warnings about smoking in office spaces to the general public. I'm outraged with the hypocrisy of it all !

 

[domalino]

Really sad news.

Famous Military Commander ‘Da Vinci’ Dies Near Bakhmut

Dmytro Kotsyubailo was one of the youngest Heroes of Ukraine, receiving the title in 2021. He was nicknamed Da Vinci because of his dream to become an artist.

www.kyivpost.com

He and his fiancée Alina Mykhailova were Ukraine's golden couple. Him a Hero of Ukraine, legendary soldier with a battalion named after him at 26 years old. Her a combat medic and politician. She's one of the most followed people involved in the war on social media.


He was also the commander of American fight James Vasquez.

Here he is with the battalion's pet wolf

 

[The Northern Baptist]

So how does this all end then? The experts like Fiona Hill think this will rumble on for years like Iran-Iraq war. Does Ukraine ultimately have to come to an agreement with Russia and give up lost territory?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

So how does this all end then? The experts like Fiona Hill think this will rumble on for years like Iran-Iraq war. Does Ukraine ultimately have to come to an agreement with Russia and give up lost territory?

I think the options are

1. Ukraine wins
2. Stalemate, years of lower level fighting
3. Ukraine gives up some land for peace
4. Russia wins

In my order of likelihood, but who knows. I'd say 2 and 3 are about even TBH.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

So how does this all end then? The experts like Fiona Hill think this will rumble on for years like Iran-Iraq war. Does Ukraine ultimately have to come to an agreement with Russia and give up lost territory?

It ends the day Russia leaves Ukraine, just like the Afghanistan war ended the day Russians withdrew!

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

I think the options are

1. Ukraine wins
2. Stalemate, years of lower level fighting
3. Ukraine gives up some land for peace
4. Russia wins

In my order of likelihood, but who knows. I'd say 2 and 3 are about even TBH.

3 is a non starter.. they gave up nukes for peace and now look stupid as hell.

They will never trust Russia to keep its word again!

And who's going to militarily police Russia again?
The EU that will want oil from Russia again?
The NATO alliance that they can't even spend 2% of their GDP on??

This will not be over soon unless Russia withdraws.

 

[The Northern Baptist]

It ends the day Russia leaves Ukraine, just like the Afghanistan war ended the day Russians withdrew!

Do you think that’s realistic? That would mean Russia either handing back Crimea or Ukraine taking it back.

 

[domalino]

Do you think that’s realistic? That would mean Russia either handing back Crimea or Ukraine taking it back.

Worth remembering we're in the 9th year of this war.