Russian invasion of Ukraine

[cleavers]

Even if they do win those areas ( they won’t in my opinion ) they still lose.

They've already lost large parts of the areas they "might" win, and they're making little headway in the others.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Loved this John Sweeney post from Kyiv the other day:

What's the Scottish MSP doing in Kyiv ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

So how does this all end then? The experts like Fiona Hill think this will rumble on for years like Iran-Iraq war. Does Ukraine ultimately have to come to an agreement with Russia and give up lost territory?

What is the point in coming to any form of agreement with Russia? I wouldn’t trust the cunts for the time of day.

 

[BlueAnorak]

 

[BlueAnorak]

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Sadly yes, Ukraine will have it give up lost territory.

The Russian want Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson. Once they conquer what's left of those territories (they're 80-85% controlled at the moment) mission accomplished.

The problem for Russia is that it has tried to redraw the map but the small gains have been at huge expense and western support is ramping up. Its a war of economic attrition. Russia running out of equipment, ammo and willing fighters. Ukraine also have limitations but clearly the better supply lines. It feels like the Russian side are closer to a breaking point but it is a massive country, they could find a million men to conscript but would Putin have the political capital to face down the backlash and how many can they supply with basic kit let alone advanced weapons.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Don't be stupid enough to believe the Russkie propaganda that Russkies control 85% of the land they want:

If everything they say is true, are you eating squirrels in restaurants?

 

[City Hobgoblin]

Yes but only Greys,would never eat a Red.

 

[west didsblue]

Sadly yes, Ukraine will have it give up lost territory.

The Russian want Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson. Once they conquer what's left of those territories (they're 80-85% controlled at the moment) mission accomplished.

That seems quite a definitive comment. My impression is that Russia are currently doing everything they can but are getting nowhere, and in fact are gradually losing territory. I don’t pretend to know what’s going to happen but I would say that it’s more likely that the Russian offensive will collapse completely and they’ll ultimately lose every inch of territory they have occupied in the last year and possibly some or all of the territory they occupied in 2014. I think they have next to no chance of completing their occupation of the 4 oblasts in the east.

 

[TonyM]

Yes but only Greys,would never eat a Red.

Alex Ferguson wouldn't be able to see the grey ones so at half time he'd change to the red ones.