Russian invasion of Ukraine

Russian headquarters destroyed at Novodruzhesk,Luhansk Region.
About 6km West of Severodonetsk.
Kherson Region....Russians been shelling Kinburn Spit through the night,which would suggest Ukrainian Forces have crossed in that area.

Slava Ukraini.
 
flook said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine war: Russia and Iran invited back to Nobel Prize banquet

The Nobel Foundation says it advocates dialogue but a critic suggests it is being "incredibly naive".
www.bbc.co.uk

unbelievable really from the organisation dishing out the Peace Prize
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It’s abysmal. What next? Hitler posthumously given the freedom of Israel? It’s just another example of the slackening of attitudes to the Russian state when we should be doubling down our efforts to fuck them right off from all quarters and all involvement in world events.
 
cleavers said:
Most of these points were made in Feb/Mar 2022.

Their economy would collapse with all the sanctions.
The airline industry would collapse within weeks with no spares.
The people wouldn't be able to eat or cloth themselves.
Putin wouldn't survive long.

Yet here we are 18 months on, and they still have a working economy, their airliners are still flying (albeit to a far smaller audience).
The people don't seem to have suffered (apart from the poor buggers sent to the front line).
Putin is still in charge, surrounded by many of the same cronies he was the begining.

Their demise was greatly exaggerated sadly.
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The economic situation is complex. For example, China and India are paying for their oil in their own currencies which are not much use to Russia. Not only are these sales heavily discounted, but some of their new customers are not paying at all and just giving Russia IOUs.
The bottom line is:
1. Russia is racking up huge deficits to pay for the war.
2. These deficits are funded from the national wealth fund.
3. At the current rate of attrition the national wealth fund will be at zero twelve months from now.
So no cash, no war.
For a good regular summary of the Russian economy search Joe Bloggs on utube.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
It’s abysmal. What next? Hitler posthumously given the freedom of Israel? It’s just another example of the slackening of attitudes to the Russian state when we should be doubling down our efforts to fuck them right off from all quarters and all involvement in world events.
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I broadly agree with what you are saying but if there is one international gathering Russia should not be shunned from, it is probably this one.

It’s hugely complex but a prize that promotes peace should probably do everything it can to avoid picking sides.

Think Russian sporting stars, including tennis players should be excluded from all competitions though. That will be far more effective.
 
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